someone had to do it
Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/26/2013 3:04PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
1 3:48.45 Hicham El Guerrouj
2 3:49.78 Eamonn Coghlan
3 3:49.89 Bernard Lagat
4 3:50.70 Noureddine Morceli
5 3:50.92 Galen Rupp

He is going to tear shit up this summer.

How many of our MILERS could beat him right now? Crazy stuff.
Simple Runner
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/26/2013 3:11PM - in reply to someone had to do it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

someone had to do it wrote:

How many of our MILERS could beat him right now? Crazy stuff.

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None. None at all.
apweiufaoew
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/26/2013 3:14PM - in reply to someone had to do it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
damn that is impressive
break it up
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/26/2013 3:29PM - in reply to Simple Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Whatever they are doing is working. This is a 26:49 10k runner.

Never seen anything like this guy among American distance athletes. Joe Falcon was the greatest talent I've ever seen and never ran faster than 13:20 and 28:30 when he was a miler.

3:50 for a mile is historic anyway you look at it. And for long distance types I can only think that Geb and Bekele could match that.
crazy raisin
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/26/2013 3:48PM - in reply to someone had to do it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
And if you convert it to a 1500 time, it would land at #4, so it's no weak list. This was an incredible run.
truth sayer
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/26/2013 4:01PM - in reply to crazy raisin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The AR for 5000m outdoors looks vulnerable now.
rupp-certified saladbar
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/26/2013 4:33PM - in reply to crazy raisin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

crazy raisin wrote:

And if you convert it to a 1500 time, it would land at #4, so it's no weak list. This was an incredible run.


BS.

WTF conversion are you using?

It's 3:33.3 at best. Great run. I've said in many threads that I think Rupp can do 3:31-3:32 outdoor, and this nicely backs up what I've been saying.

But it is NOTHING near the quality of a #4 all-time in an event actually contested frequently by the world elite.
Goldman
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/26/2013 4:54PM - in reply to someone had to do it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This is insane. 10k guy, obviously nowhere near peaking for this, its indoors, and still goes 3:50?

WOW.
knox harrington
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/27/2013 9:06AM - in reply to someone had to do it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Indoor Mile - 5th all time
10000m - 16th all time

pretty funny.
rupp-certified saladbar
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/27/2013 11:54AM - in reply to knox harrington Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

knox harrington wrote:

Indoor Mile - 5th all time
10000m - 16th all time

pretty funny.


Thanks for this. Shows how meaningless the all-time list is for the mile (rarely contested outside of US).

Great run, though. The LRC write-up points out that it still holds up well (albeit not #5) in a combined 1500/mile list.
paraplegic
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/28/2013 10:44AM - in reply to rupp-certified saladbar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Indoor all-time list:

1 3:31.18 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1rA Stuttgart 02.02.1997

2 3:31.76 Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18.04.73 1r2 Stuttgart 01.02.1998

3 3:32.01 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Liévin 22.02.1998

4 3:32.11 Laban Rotich KEN 20.01.69 2r2 Stuttgart 01.02.1998

5 3:32.39 Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18.04.73 2rA Stuttgart 02.02.1997

6 3:33.01+ Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14.09.74 1 Gent 12.02.1997

7 3:33.08 Daniel Kipchirchir Komen KEN 27.11.84 1 Karlsruhe 13.02.2005

8 3:33.10 Deresse Mekonnen ETH 20.10.87 1 Birmingham 20.02.2010

9 3:33.17 Vénuste Niyongabo BDI 09.12.73 2 Liévin 22.02.1998

10 3:33.23 Augustine Choge KEN 21.01.87 1 Birmingham 19.02.2011

11 3:33.27 Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18.04.73 1r2 Gent 08.02.1998

12 3:33.32 Andrés Manuel Díaz ESP 12.07.69 1 Piræus 24.02.1999

13 3:33.34+ Bernard Lagat USA 12.12.74 1 Fayetteville 11.02.2005

14 3:33.39 Laban Rotich KEN 20.01.69 1 Stockholm 25.02.1999

15 3:33.69 Daniel Kipchirchir Komen KEN 27.11.84 1rA Valencia 10.02.2007

16 3:33.74 Augustine Choge KEN 21.01.87 2 Birmingham 20.02.2010

17 3:33.77 Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18.04.73 1 Maebashi 07.03.1999

18 3:33.79 Augustine Choge KEN 21.01.87 1r2 Stockholm 20.02.2007

19 3:33.96 Haron Keitany KEN 17.12.83 1 Gent 08.02.2009

20 3:33.97 Laban Rotich KEN 20.01.69 1r1 Gent 08.02.1998

20 3:33.97 Deresse Mekonnen ETH 20.10.87 2 Birmingham 19.02.2011

22 3:33.98 Laban Rotich KEN 20.01.69 2 Maebashi 07.03.1999

23 3:33.99 Laban Rotich KEN 20.01.69 1 Stockholm 19.02.1998

23 3:33.99 Ivan Heshko UKR 19.08.79 2 Karlsruhe 13.02.2005

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_1500ok.htm
TrackCoach
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/28/2013 1:23PM - in reply to truth sayer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

truth sayer wrote:

The AR for 5000m outdoors looks vulnerable now.


vulnerable...are you serious?

That record is toast, a 26:48 10K runner who can run a 3:50x mile puts him in the mid 12:4x range. Geb and KB are the only sub-27 guys who I can say for a fact could run a 3:50x mile.
rupp-certified saladbar
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/28/2013 1:37PM - in reply to paraplegic Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Thanks for that list. Shows exactly what I'm saying.

Without even checking, I can say that:

1. There are not 22 times within 2.8s of the WR in the indoor mile.
2. This is true even though the indoor mile record is relatively week.

All-time mile list = weak.
rupp-certified saladbar
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/28/2013 1:38PM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

TrackCoach wrote:
vulnerable...are you serious?

That record is toast, a 26:48 10K runner who can run a 3:50x mile puts him in the mid 12:4x range. Geb and KB are the only sub-27 guys who I can say for a fact could run a 3:50x mile.


Um...ever hear of MO FARAH?

Rupp can't beat Farah at any distance from 40 yards to 100 miles.

Agreed that the AR is going to go way down, though.
subfive
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/28/2013 5:05PM - in reply to paraplegic Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Coghlan was nicknamed "The Chairman of the Boards"

In 1981 he ran 3:49.78 in 1983 at New Jersey's Meadowlands Arena indoor arena. His record stood until 1997 when it was broken by Morocco's Hicham El Guerrouj in a time of 3:48.45. It is still the second fastest indoor mile of all time.
Coghlan's 1983 time was the fastest mile ever run in the United States until 10 June 2007, when Daniel Kipchirchir Komen ran 3:48.28 outdoors in Eugene, Oregon. It remains one of only four sub-3:50 miles run on American soil.[wiki]

Now why does the alltime-athletic list not show this?
oh my werd
RE: Rupp is the 5th fastest indoor miler in history 1/28/2013 8:34PM - in reply to rupp-certified saladbar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You don't deserve your handle. You're not worthy of certification if you're not even aware of the facts (Rupp has a faster flying 100m - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1195163/2/index.htm).


rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Um...ever hear of MO FARAH?

Rupp can't beat Farah at any distance from 40 yards to 100 miles.

Agreed that the AR is going to go way down, though.