[quote]Junk Master wrote:
Micro dosing S4 was extremely common (though has fallen out of favor) and along with supplemental T3 was the "foundation" of the Salazar (and many, many other) groups "grey" protocol.
High Dose Liquid Albuterol is another grey market drug that when combined with T3, and Ketotifen shreds body fat, without many of the sides of Clenbuterol, AND if you test positive, well, what athlete doesn't have an Albuterol inhaler prescription of exercise induced asthma? Half of the Olympic village carries one.
Keep in mind that athletes often use substances that coaches have no idea they are using.
Also, keep in mind that running is NOTHING like the granddaddy, bodybuilding, with MMA a close second. I doubt you could find an MMA fighter who doesn't supplement to bring his Test level up to the 6:1 ratio allowed by the Nevada Athletic Commission.
Also, if you think the NFL, NBA, and MLB are clean with the amount of money involved you still believe Ryan Hall has a chance at gold.
Currently, there's not even HGH testing in NFL, or NBA! Add insulin and your designer steroid of choice...
There are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars at stake for a professional pitcher. If you have any potential and live in the Dominican Republic, say, where steroids are available over the counter and you are not tested...need I say more?
The Lance thing will shine a spotlight on PED use but it might just tip the issue in the opposite direction, where people realize the vast majority of the cyclists who finished behind Lane were also using.
Has there EVER been a natural Mr. Olympia? Maybe Larry Scott. Maybe.
Has there ever been an NFL Championship team where at least 1/3 of all the linemen and defense hadn't used some PED at some point in their career? Probably not since the 1972 Dolphins.
And those who think Basketball, for some reason, is clean should take a good, hard look at Michael Jordan-- who was commonly known to favor Winstrol, a substance familiar to all here because of Ben Johnson (another story in and of itself-- who thinks Carl Lewis was clean?!)
Luckily, for a variety of reasons, the chief being the lack of monetary incentive, running has remained relatively clean compared to other sports (didn't a ping pong player test positive for steroids) but the internet and the world of "research chems," because of their availability and low cost have changed that over the last decade.
The only reason we don't hear more about the "grey" market stuff is no one can beat the Kenyans/East Africans if they're on EPO anyway. It's just a simple matter of body type.
All the HGH and 'roids in the world won't help a '5 10" white guy post up Shaquille O'Neil, or Dwight Howard. Though with a little fake bake and hair spray he'd probably
Helluva post man. Don't know how accurate it is, but, wow.