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|japan is where its at|
Kagawa Marugame half marathon entry lists:
Kim Smith (New Zealand) - 1:07:11
Yukiko Akaba (Team Hokuren) - 1:08:11
Nicole Chapple (Australia) - 1:08:37
Tiki Gelana (Ethiopia) - 1:08:48
Yumiko Hara (Team Univ. Ent.) - 1:09:28
Marisa Barros (Portugal) - 1:09:41
Hiroko Miyauchi (Team Kyocera) - 1:09:54
Eri Hayakawa (Team Toto) - 1:10:14
Kaori Yoshida (Puma RC) - 1:10:18
Sayo Nomura (Team Daiichi Seimei) - 1:10:34
Misato Horie (Team Noritz) - 1:10:37
Yuko Shimizu (Team Sekisui Kagaku) - 1:10:58
Abel Kirui (Kenya) - 1:00:11
Atsushi Sato (Team Chugoku Denryoku) - 1:00:25
Jacob Wanjuki (Kenya/Team Aichi Seiko) - 1:00:32
Alistair Cragg (Ireland) - 1:00:49
Tsuyoshi Ugachi (Team Konica Minolta) - 1:00:58
Daniel Gitau (Kenya/Team Fujitsu) - 1:01:01
Benjamin Gandu (Nihon Univ.) - 1:01:06
Collis Birmingham (Australia) - 1:01:25
Arata Fujiwara (Miki House) - 1:01:34
Johana Maina (Team Fujitsu) - 1:01:34
Tatsunori Hamasaki (Team Komori Corp.) - 1:01:45
Yuta Igarashi (Team JR Higashi Nihon) - 1:01:46
Kenta Oshima (Team NTN) - 1:01:48
Yuko Matsumiya (Team Hitachi Butsuryu) - 1:01:53
Yuichiro Ogawa (Team Kanebo) - 1:01:53
Ryo Yamamoto (Team Sagawa Express) - 1:01:54
Tomoyuki Morita (Team Kanebo) - 1:01:55
Hiromitsu Kakuage (Komazawa Univ.) - 1:01:56
Takahiro Yamanaka (Team Honda) - 1:01:57
Masamichi Shinozaki (Team Hitachi Butsuryu) - 1:01:58
Hiroyuki Uno (Team Honda) - 1:01:58
Shuji Yoshikawa (Team Kyudenko) - 1:01:58
Kidane Tadasse (Eritrea) - debut - 27:06.16 for 10000 m
Ryuji Ono (Team Asahi Kasei) - debut - 27:53.19 for 10000 m
Enock Omwamba (Kenya/Yamanashi Gakuin Univ.) - debut - 28:17.00 for 10000 m
Deep fields and usually fast times but not one American in the mens or womens race. Why don't more American go to these races?
Its not just Japan , its americans do not race enough around the world.
Poor coaching and understanding international competition.
Lack of a master plan to develop an athlete long term with international exposure.
Poor agent not knowing how to get athlete into international competitions.
Money. The top Americans are paid handsomely to race in the US and the appearance fees they command overseas are not worth it. I'm sure if more Americans signed with Japanese shoe companies they would get bonuses for racing internationally, but Nike is not going to pay their US athletes to go race in Japan or Europe unless they have a chance of winning. Might as well send their Africans.
|might be wejo|
How excited would you be if some Japanese guys came over to race here? Unless they were winning races, I would guess not at all. Same deal over in Japan; they wouldn't care about Americans unless they were winning and the reality is very few non-Africans are beating the Africans (of which there are a fair number in Japan). No interest, no money.
Plus, Japan is really far away. Tokyo is 10 times zones away from New York, so the jet lag is going to be pretty bad. In a sport where wins and losses rely almost entirely on fitness, a disadvantage like that is huge. It's not as bad for those on the west coast, which I guess is where most professional American runners live, but still not ideal.
Lastly, from a competitive standpoint it's not like the best guys in the world are from Japan. Yes the scene there is good and competitive, but it is not the pinnacle of competition. They don't even host a diamond league meet, or any track meet of internation consequence from what I can tell. Japan is more focused on the raods, but today roads means the marathon. Fukuoka and Tokyo are good and all, but they are not one of the majors. They are on par with most of the other "B" level marathons, which consist mainly of all the European ones save Berlin and London plus a few other ones like Dubai and the two Japanese ones.
|troof be told|
A few good reasons have already been given, but another is that the Japanese races have very limited places and budget available for non-Japanese athletes and that there are few Americans good enough to justify taking them over better athletes from other countries. If you're going to take four people from overseas like in the race you posted above why would you take a 62-minute American when you could get a random 27:06 Eritrean to debut? The handful of Americans faster than 62 or with a track time near 27:06 would probably be way more expensive.
|You knew already, but.........|
obviously the reason is Japanese drug testers will not provide coaches aprior information on test sampling that technicians require to avoid detection.
None of these four sentences are sentences.
No one gets the heads up these days. No one's getting help from USADA or WADA. There are corrupt federations still in the works, but they're relics. Christian Cantwell got tested while at the hospital the day his son was born, while at a casino and while he was gone fishing. Does that really sound like cooperative work?
I know it's fun to think, "my head's not in the sand...I know how it is in the real world...I'm no pollyanna..." but take a step back from the joys of cynicism and consider the possibility that there is no massive conspiracy between reliable testing agencies, the federations of free nations and athletes and that no athlete is safe.
Tokyo is a major, Fukuoka is not. I hear this sort of thing all the time on here, "do you think x marathon is good enough to be called a major?" and other shit like that. Do you guys realize that the World Marathon Majors refers to a specific list of 6 races? "Major" is not a term you can just throw around and debate about. Tokyo, Boston, London, Berlin, Chicago, NYC. That's it.
|might be wejo|
"Major" is short for one of the races in the World Marathon Majors series. I had thought that Tokyo was replacing New York for this time only, but it seems that as of two months ago Tokyo is formally a permenent part of the series. I stand corrected. Fukuoka is not part of the series.
Fukuoka is a good race with a lot of history, but the depth of the field is not as good as the WMM races.
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