World jr shot put champ Jacko Gil attacked by "an 11-year-old bitch" - nearly loses his right eye

I fed my dog late more often that I would have liked, he forgave me because other than that I didn't treat him like absolute sh*t.

Each dog should have its own food bowl.

This guy sounds like a bad dog owner. Mistreat dogs, they will rip your face off in situations like this.

I see people with dogs like this every day walking their dangerous dogs offleash in public and the owners have absolutely no control of them.

Loving the thread title Rojo.

CCW permits solves that problem.

For real. If your dog bites you like that then there's a problem.

Put it to sleep.

Beavus wrote:

Put it to sleep.

Agreed. Dog owners can be very clueless.

I read about how a Pitbull killed the owner, a woman who was 7 months pregnant. The victim and her husband belonged to a Pit Bull advocacy group. After the attack he refused to blame the dog which had been put down. He buried his wife with the dogs ashes. Absolutley stunning.

The average dog owner will never undergo any formal classes on how to train and raise their pets. Most of what people do with their dogs is based in movie fantasy and pseudoscience so there's tons of misconceptions out there, even with people who have a lot of experience with dogs.

The pitbull advocacy thing is a unique phenomenon. Because there's been so much false negative stuff spread around about pitbulls, there's been an equally false reaction that tries to paint them as angels who can do no wrong.

khugv wrote:

The average dog owner will never undergo any formal classes on how to train and raise their pets. Most of what people do with their dogs is based in movie fantasy and pseudoscience so there's tons of misconceptions out there, even with people who have a lot of experience with dogs.

The pitbull advocacy thing is a unique phenomenon. Because there's been so much false negative stuff spread around about pitbulls, there's been an equally false reaction that tries to paint them as angels who can do no wrong.

About 85% of dog attack deaths come from Rots and Pits although they represent only 5% of dogs or less.

There are 4.5 million dog bites in the US every year. There are three times as many guns as dogs and there are about 80,000 shootings per year. About 50 people die each year from dog attacks, about 8,000 people die from gun shots. I don't think the discussion should be should Pit bulls be banned; that's like smoking in bars, a given. A strong arguement can be made for banning all dogs. I know the dog lobby makes the gun lobby look like book club; the gun people only dream of having the dog lobby power. An increasingly large number of dog owners do not give a shit about leash laws etc. The half an idiot rate much higher than car drivers etc.

khugv wrote:

The average dog owner will never undergo any formal classes on how to train and raise their pets. Most of what people do with their dogs is based in movie fantasy and pseudoscience so there's tons of misconceptions out there, even with people who have a lot of experience with dogs.

The pitbull advocacy thing is a unique phenomenon. Because there's been so much false negative stuff spread around about pitbulls, there's been an equally false reaction that tries to paint them as angels who can do no wrong.

Yes, lots of false stuff about pit bulls, like the four inch scar on my back when I got bit by a pit bull that came after me on a run (I stopped and faced the dog while the owner tried to get it to keep from illiciting a prey/chase reflex. The dog rewarded my cool headed thinking by jumping up and biting me on the back).

I am really tired of people keeping and perpetuating dangerous dog breeds who think that it is ok as long as you know how to treat the animal. Any dog that becomes aggressive when not fed on time is a dangerous animal that is not fit for domestication. Dogs are naturally accustomed to periods of feast and famine as they are hunters by nature. A dog that is aggressive after not eating for four hours is not aggressive because of food. It is just aggressive and very dangerous. The next bite may take off a little kids face and leave them scarred for life. Get rid of the dog.

I've been bitten about 10 times in my running career. Always by an off leash dog in an area that was designated on leash. Never by a pit bull thank god. I find the standard poodles, german shepards and Dobermans are the worst. One half of all household insurance claims are for dog bit related incidents. I hope you got a lot for your back bite. I would use the settlement money to feed the dog to the owner.

Dog owner wrote:

I fed my dog late more often that I would have liked, he forgave me because other than that I didn't treat him like absolute sh*t.

Each dog should have its own food bowl.

This guy sounds like a bad dog owner. Mistreat dogs, they will rip your face off in situations like this.

Did you even read the post about what happened? What makes you think each dog didn't have it's own bowl? You think these dogs are treated like absolute shit? Idiot.

The 2 dogs were fighting over a bowl that was knocked off a chair. What the owner did wrong was grabbing one of the dogs from behind while it was fighting. The dog probably had no clue who was 'attacking it from behind' and naturally defended itself. Had he stepped in between where each dog could see him no one would have been hurt probably. Some dogs can be very different when it comes to defending their food. Know your dogs. And never pick one up from behind while in the middle of a fight.

Standard Bearer wrote:

I've been bitten about 10 times in my running career. Always by an off leash dog in an area that was designated on leash. Never by a pit bull thank god. I find the standard poodles, german shepards and Dobermans are the worst. One half of all household insurance claims are for dog bit related incidents. I hope you got a lot for your back bite. I would use the settlement money to feed the dog to the owner.

Dogs have a good sense of which people are cowardly a$$holes and tend to go after those people. I've been running 80-100 miles/week for years (usually on a route that passes through an off-leash dog park) and I've never been bitten. Occasionally, a dog might come bounding after me because it thinks that chasing is a game but, at that point, I just stop running for a couple of seconds and let the dog sniff my hand and it loses interest. On the other hand, the team captain on my college cross country team had anger issues and used to kick or punch dogs and cars if they got in his way. He's been bitten on at least one occasion. Most dogs that bite people in households have been physically disciplined many times by their owners and are high-strung and nervous. If you hit or kick a dog as punishment, it often leads to major issues down the road.

A person getting bit by a dog is never at fault. If it is within kicking range of a non-owner and off-leash it should be kicked and taken out.

I have run 80mpw for 15 years and have been had dogs come after me dozens of times. I have never been bitten, but if a dog is off-leash and gets close to me it is getting an all-out kick to its head.

I was expecting the Blame the runner post. Good rebuttal points though geb 1995WC. A couple of the bites I got were surprise from behind, no warning etc. I totally despise the dog psych lessons "if you get close and sniff his butt and lick his ears he won't bite" Absolutley retarded and much worse than the gn apologists. I'm at 35 years of running 50 to 60 miles per week. Bites have occured in public parks in on leash areas. I would never run through a dog park; at least not expect a bit of a hassle.

Most cities enforce the dog rules. I never seem to have problems in the states. SOme absolutley do not.

the average runner seems to carry a disdain for the canine. i have come across this often. so much negative emotion about dogs and dog owners. where does it come from? are these people who have spent their whole lives living, playing, and running with dogs? only a lack of contact with dogs and animals in general would seem to generate the capacity for this sort of animosity. it is sad.

Standard Bearer wrote:

About 85% of dog attack deaths come from Rots and Pits although they represent only 5% of dogs or less.

There are 4.5 million dog bites in the US every year. There are three times as many guns as dogs and there are about 80,000 shootings per year. About 50 people die each year from dog attacks, about 8,000 people die from gun shots. I don't think the discussion should be should Pit bulls be banned; that's like smoking in bars, a given. A strong arguement can be made for banning all dogs. I know the dog lobby makes the gun lobby look like book club; the gun people only dream of having the dog lobby power. An increasingly large number of dog owners do not give a shit about leash laws etc. The half an idiot rate much higher than car drivers etc.

Around 15,000 people in the U.S. are killed each year from homicide and 32,000 from car accidents, yet, because of 50 deaths from dog attacks out of something like 80 million dogs, we should ban all dogs? Right..... As for your bite statistic, the vast majority of bites are of the non-serious variety and are basically the same as assault by a person. Have you ever been punched or kicked by another kid in high school, who lost their temper? We should euthanize them all, right? It seems to me that the percentage of crazy, out of control dogs is much lower than the rate of crazy, out of control humans. Due to the stupidity of your post, I can only surmise that you are one of the crazy ones and perhaps you should be banned from the country.

Canova>God wrote:

Loving the thread title Rojo.

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melbs wrote:

the average runner seems to carry a disdain for the canine. i have come across this often. so much negative emotion about dogs and dog owners. where does it come from? are these people who have spent their whole lives living, playing, and running with dogs? only a lack of contact with dogs and animals in general would seem to generate the capacity for this sort of animosity. it is sad.

Disagree. I grew up with a ZOO of household animals. I'm literally a "dog whisperer" and know how to deal with dogs probably better than anyone. If you run enough miles... you will have dog encounters, and depending on where you live, more or less. 1 of 10 dogs is remotely aggressive, regardless of the runner/runner's reaction. I recommend pepper spray for that rare ocassion when all else fails.