Simple Runner
NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 7:07PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
9:02 is 9:38 for 3200 (holding same pace for last 200, of course).
bguyMilleniumJ2012
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 7:10PM - in reply to Simple Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well, thats indoors!

Outdoors is usually quicker, so I'd give her 9:35 outdoors this year, and sub 9:30 by the Spring/summer of her senior yea.
ifififi
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 7:11PM - in reply to Simple Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
All due respect to Baxter, but no way she can beat Cain on the track. MAYbe at 5,000 ...
bguyMilleniumJ2012
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 7:15PM - in reply to ifififi Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I dont even think she can beat her on the track at 5000 at this point. Remember XC is not her specialty especially on the terrain a course is run on. She has nothing holding back her speed on a track!

Sub 16 for both this year!!
watchout
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 7:45PM - in reply to Simple Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cain is still a miler, so she will still be running mile races in the highlight meets.

Baxter is still a 5k runner, so on the track she'll still be running 2 mile/5k races in highlight meets.

So they still won't be going head to head.

Nice pre-season race for Cain, of course. Glad to see that record start to move down a bit.
coach d
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 7:53PM - in reply to Simple Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Baxter hasn't been heard from for a while (and won't be because California high schools don't do indoors and don't go to Penn). We'll see if Cain comes to Arcadia.
Simple Runner
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 8:33PM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I suspect that after this race, Salazar wouldn't "waste" his protege's time w/ a small-time meet like Arcadia. NON and summer open meets w/ collegians and pros probably the future.

I may be wrong, but I believe Katie Flood's 8:55 3000 @ Dempsey was the only indoor collegiate time faster than Cain's 9:02. So it doesn't make sense to have MC "Hammer" run against H.S. competition if she's wanting to be challenged.

I'd say the likelihood of a matchup is unlikely, too.
dubious
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 8:41PM - in reply to Simple Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Is Cain still considered as competing under her high school? If she isn't, would that inhibit her from entering any major races where she could face Baxter?
High Wire
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 9:35PM - in reply to watchout Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

watchout wrote:



Nice pre-season race for Cain, of course. Glad to see that record start to move down a bit.


"Nice"? "a bit"? And just what exactly would be a LOT? She just crushed Katie Knight (who had a solid performance herself) by 34 seconds.

Clues available at the exit door.
Retardalert.
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 11:09PM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

coach d wrote:

Baxter hasn't been heard from for a while (and won't be because California high schools don't do indoors and don't go to Penn). We'll see if Cain comes to Arcadia.


Cali HS's don't go to Penn? Where is long beach poly from again? Ca is the most famous US state at penn a lot of years. Everyone who follows the sport knows that f'tard. And poly isn't the only team from Cali.
VIPAM
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 11:19PM - in reply to dubious Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cain can still compete against high school; however, she isn't competing for her school. Mary and her coach are both making sure she does everything to guard both her current high school and future college eligibility.

It would have been a HSR however the 9:02.10 was run on an oversized track which isn't eligibe for the 3000m high school record.

MARY shocked me because I definitely didn't think she could run 9:02.10 and win; therefore, she probably could have gone slightly faster if required!

In response to the OP

Baxter vs Cain
800m......Cain
1500/Mile.Cain
3000m/2m.. 90% Cain
5000m.....very slight favorite for Baxter
coach d
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/12/2013 11:40PM - in reply to Retardalert. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Retardalert. wrote:

Cali HS's don't go to Penn? Where is long beach poly from again? Ca is the most famous US state at penn a lot of years. Everyone who follows the sport knows that f'tard. And poly isn't the only team from Cali.


A whopping 4 high schools from California went to Penn last year. You'd have to be a total retard (you are) or an arrogant east coaster to believe that most California schools even THINK about Penn. Many go to Mt. Sac, stupid. Even if they wanted to spend the money to go to Penn, the timing conflicts with getting ready for league championships in California, which is how they get to State.

More high schools from out of state competed in just the 3200 at Arcadia than there were California schools bothering to go to Penn. By and large WE DON'T CARE. People from around the nation come HERE to compete, much more than the other way around.
girls>boys
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/13/2013 12:03AM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It would be pointless for Cain to go to Arcadia. She's heads above any other female runner in high school. She needs to be running with the big dogs like Simpson, Uceny, Uhl, Flanagan etc. She beat Moser and Erdmann.. Moser has ran 4:03 and 1:59.. Erdmann has ran 15:33 and 32:09..
ck3237
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/13/2013 8:38AM - in reply to High Wire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If Cain's record is the greatest performance in history then what was Bjorklund's?
you are terrible
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/13/2013 8:57AM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

coach d wrote:

By and large WE DON'T CARE. People from around the nation come HERE to compete, much more than the other way around.



You need to relax. You have an enormous stick up your a** about California. Some people don't like California. Not everyone will always like the same things that you like. Just learn to live with it.
BTW-I Love California
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/13/2013 10:52AM - in reply to you are terrible Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? "


Well....If Cain can run that time then Baxter could run about 10 seconds faster!
Simple Runner
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/13/2013 2:09PM - in reply to BTW-I Love California Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Riiiiiight.
The rocket.
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/13/2013 2:17PM - in reply to Simple Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't think Baxter will run as fast as Cain this year for 3200 only because she will never need to in order to win. Baxter isn't big on traveling to the biggest meets out of state. She only does once or twice a year.

If Cain does run the 2 mile at Arcadia vs Baxter however my money is still on Baxter in about 9:46.
Retardalert.
RE: NOW what do you think about a Baxter-Cain face-off at 3200 / 2-mile? Hmmmm? 1/13/2013 9:46PM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

coach d wrote:


Retardalert. wrote:

Cali HS's don't go to Penn? Where is long beach poly from again? Ca is the most famous US state at penn a lot of years. Everyone who follows the sport knows that f'tard. And poly isn't the only team from Cali.


A whopping 4 high schools from California went to Penn last year. You'd have to be a total retard (you are) or an arrogant east coaster to believe that most California schools even THINK about Penn. Many go to Mt. Sac, stupid. Even if they wanted to spend the money to go to Penn, the timing conflicts with getting ready for league championships in California, which is how they get to State.

More high schools from out of state competed in just the 3200 at Arcadia than there were California schools bothering to go to Penn. By and large WE DON'T CARE. People from around the nation come HERE to compete, much more than the other way around.


It's your best that come f'tard. Poly for many years is all that matters from Cali as far as penn goes.