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scsummer
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/9/2013 6:27PM - in reply to coachTi Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Don't criticize him for his interview so much. Not everyone is an outgoing media personality. I'd for one would be super awkward.

Also, interesting that he has to work in retail.
Wondering in the West
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/9/2013 7:06PM - in reply to scsummer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I enjoyed it and thought it was well-produced. Ryan was honest about himself and the sport of running.
Quite
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/9/2013 7:14PM - in reply to y Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

y wrote:

Sounds like he dislikes his job.


Exactly. Seems like a nice enough guy, but came across as really disenchanted with running.
made me sad
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/9/2013 7:49PM - in reply to Quite Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
its depressing.
S. Canaday
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/9/2013 8:52PM - in reply to made me sad Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Seems like a very accurate portrayal of how things are... I was surprised to see someone with his track speed and marathon range still working retail in the shoe store. His Brooks contract must not be enough
TLW
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/9/2013 9:18PM - in reply to S. Canaday Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
That video is depressing. Not motivating at all as we see a guy who seems to hate the lifestyle and the sacrifices he makes to run.

Pro runners need to take note of guys like Josh Cox, who is 2 minutes slower than Vail, but can make a living at the sport because of the way they promote/interact/carry themselves.
rovatti
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/9/2013 9:54PM - in reply to TLW Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Nice video. Yes, a bit melancholy.

Training with a group of similar runners would help him (if it were feasible).

- rovatti
marks-set-go
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/9/2013 10:13PM - in reply to rovatti Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The video captured the reality of being a 2.11 marathoner - toil and solitude - yet providing simple rewards of a personal nature.
movie shaker
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/9/2013 10:19PM - in reply to marks-set-go Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I agree it was a great video, and I also agree that the dude doesn't seem that thrilled.

Maybe he's just a "boring" person (hey, me too!). I hope he's happy with what he's doing, though this video doesn't really make it seem that way.
28353;
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/10/2013 12:53AM - in reply to coachTi Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I like the honest, low key perspective.

Only the very top and the near-the-top with excellent self-marketing skills make a decent living in this sport. Ryan's just stating the reality of our sport. I think it speaks volumes about the character and resolve which I can only imagine it takes to live the runner lifestyle year after year after year.

It would be nice if more distance runners had the same riches and notoriety lavished on our football, basketball, and baseball players. In truth these professionals had to work just as hard to make it to the big stage, if not harder. With all that money to be made every guy who did make it did so by beating out thousands of would be pros. You figure the typical draftee has been playing in their sport over a decade already. Before making it to the college ranks, before making varsity, most were shuttled around all week long to select and travel teams along with every other parent who swore their kid is the next Lebron James, Peyton Manning, Alex Rodriguez or Tiger Woods. But once those pros do make it, they live like rock stars where as the 'pro' runner has to work even harder.

Letís be honest. Money has always been a big part of our professional sports. But there's too much money at stake now. Playoff season's run almost as long as the regular season. NBA officiating is a joke. Lock-outs. Practically zero drug testing. Rules changes to protect high worth players and keep the viewers glued to the set. Itís all about profits and entertainment value. Athletic competition is secondary.

The anonymity which most pro runners live under is both a curse and a blessing. I'm sure there are days when Ryan questions his sanity, working in a running store to make a living despite being one of the best in the country at his sport. But he is afforded the luxury of knowing what fans he does have admire him for the man he is and the effort he puts forth, not for his money or fame.
Cicirunner
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/10/2013 5:27AM - in reply to MrGambinus Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The documentary was boring and Ryan seems unenthusiastic and miserable.
webfoot
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/10/2013 2:56PM - in reply to Cicirunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Cicirunner wrote:

The documentary was boring and Ryan seems unenthusiastic and miserable.


You impressionable pansies.

It appears the outdoor scenes were filmed in the early evening and on cloudy, rainy days. The music in the video is mellow and not uplifting. I'm guessing Ryan answers questions that he was asked, not his fault if they aren't the most interesting questions.

With different editing, music and weather Ryan Vail is the most interesting man in the world.

I still enjoyed the video and thought it was well-done.
snooze factory
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/10/2013 3:45PM - in reply to asdfasdf Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
you're right. he doesn't seem like someone i would ever want to be around. were they trying to discourage people from becoming pro runners with this video? but hey, at least he'll be able to say he's run a solid marathon when he's retired...good for him. at least he was able to compete with the world's ..er...best marathoners, Zzzzzzzzzzzz


asdfasdf wrote:

He's really boring... He spoke in a very boring, monotone voice. He never smiled, never showed enthusiasm for what he's doing. Is that really better than doing a 9-5 if he also has to work at a running store? How depressing...
RAW TV
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/10/2013 3:59PM - in reply to MrGambinus Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

MrGambinus wrote:

I think hes just nervous and lacking some confidence (not running-wise). He's just an everyday human who is happy to earn some money with his sport, no big superstar who is used to interviews and stuff. We tend to forget that when watching Videos and Interviews.


But I enjoyed it. He seems very nice.


I thought his demeanor was honest. He said he's a guy in a humble sport just focused on getting through his next workout and trying to keep his career going...and I could feel that in his delivery. He's not a flashy guy and I'm glad that he didn't try to convince me that he was.

The film maker needs to hire a camera operator though. The still shots need to be still and you shouldn't correct the zoom during the dialogue.
anonymous letsrunner
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/10/2013 4:01PM - in reply to marks-set-go Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

marks-set-go wrote:

The video captured the reality of being a 2.11 marathoner - toil and solitude - yet providing simple rewards of a personal nature.


This. I thought the documentary was near perfect for how it portrayed professional running for all but the super elite.

As someone who actually knows the guy (or knew him anyway), this is just how he is. He's not a center-of-attention type of guy, and his form has always been the way it is. He's content to work his arse off (and he DOES work tremendously hard) purely for the sake of the love of running and the desire to improve. That doesn't make him a bad person or anything. He's a pretty nice and normal guy. No need to bash someone who's working hard at doing what they love.
5kays
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/10/2013 4:12PM - in reply to coachTi Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
this is way better than the snoozefest you've posted. check it!

http://vimeo.com/47355798


coachTi wrote:

Enjoy....

http://vimeo.com/55762728
pressbox
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/10/2013 8:04PM - in reply to 5kays Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Awesome video, I wish him the best of luck!
aloha warrior
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/11/2013 1:25PM - in reply to asdfasdf Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

asdfasdf wrote:

It wasn't well done!!! I don't want to wear Brooks gear now because that video and that running store were so boring. Smile a little bit when you're on camera or at least when you're selling shoes to customers!


What running store is that? He looks completely bored. He looks like he'd rather be anywhere else than that store. Whenever I go into a running shop the elite/fast guys generally are bored, dislike helping newcomers or cop an attitude. That's just been my experience.
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RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/11/2013 4:43PM - in reply to aloha warrior Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'm in the minority that really liked it. "Boring" never occurred to me as I was watching it. He just strikes me as a humble guy grinding out the miles, under the radar, not seeking attention, just trying to see where it takes him. If I was in my 20s, I'd find it an appealing lifestyle (but then I'm a pretty boring guy). Props to him for getting the most out of his ability and preventing "what ifs" down the road.
Gr8
RE: Pro Runner Documentary 1/11/2013 4:54PM - in reply to MrGambinus Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Loved it! Would watch more and more of these!
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