Patrick Tiernan, the Aussie U20 1500/5000/Cross Country Champ is headed to Villanova.
PRs
1:54.34
3:50.67
8:20.48
14:40.59
30:34 (Road)
http://villanovarunning.blogspot.com/2013/01/triple-australian-jr-champion-patrick.html
Patrick Tiernan, the Aussie U20 1500/5000/Cross Country Champ is headed to Villanova.
PRs
1:54.34
3:50.67
8:20.48
14:40.59
30:34 (Road)
http://villanovarunning.blogspot.com/2013/01/triple-australian-jr-champion-patrick.html
Every Aussie claims to be an Australian Junior Champion:
http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=500&ATCLID=205404386
Patrick is actually a national champion a few times over, and he is a quality runner and a quality person. Except I am not sure how he was sponsored by nike, yet is still able to attend a US college. On the other hand, freddy ovett is not...either he lied to oregon, or oregon is lying to the public to make him look better than he is. Freddy ovett hasnt even won a medal at nationals in the past 5 years...
Maybe he'll help pad their resume so they complain even more about being criminally underrated next year and then get 27th at nationals.
Pat was not on a contract with Nike, he was not getting paid.
Tiernan: Australian for mid-distance runner
classic supernova wrote:
Maybe he'll help pad their resume so they complain even more about being criminally underrated next year and then get 27th at nationals.
U mad bro?
TheFoyeEffect wrote:
U mad bro?
I think the word you are looking for is "entertained", not "mad", and the answer is yes. I found it quite entertaining.
They didn't have a fifth man this season.
Once an Expert wrote:
They didn't have a fifth man this season.
Well if they didn't have a 5th man, maybe you should not have complained about them being ranked 22nd in your original thread
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=4859563&thread=4828992Foreign imports are ruining US track and XC. It's just not fair to US kids who work so hard to get a scholarship.
Life isn't fair. Or maybe it is...the faster you can run, the better opportunities you will have regarding college and scholarship...
How many Americans running this quick did Villanova pass over? None.
Quit crying wrote:
Life isn't fair. Or maybe it is...the faster you can run, the better opportunities you will have regarding college and scholarship...
How many Americans running this quick did Villanova pass over? None.
This is a point I've been making for years. You can only coach the kids who commit to your program.
If top US kids did not commit to Nova and took other offers, Nova had every right to get the best runners they could no matter where those runners were from. It would have been stupid not to do this.
It's not like Nova did not recruit American kids. Now Nova is starting to get more top American talent: Fitzsimmons. Lampron, and Malone.
If Edward Cheserek commits after he visits,is O'Sullivan supposed to say "No, I think I'll offer a 4:10 American runner instead"?
Absurd. If American runners want scholarships instead of foreign runners, they should run faster.
I've been hearing this since the 1950's. Do you have the same beef with academics? I will say, that in some cases I don't understand the fascination with a US college education when competitive opportunities and education may be as good in your own country.
If you are complaining about losing a scholarship to a 14:40 5000m runner, you need to train harder. It's not like you lost it to a 23 year-old 13:16 5000m runner from Kenya.
There are foreigners and then there are foreigners.
If you stash a third-world type (Poss non-qual) at an NAIA school and transfer him to a Div.1 program as a So. that's beating the system and not good for the sport.
Taking an English-speaking kid who may be admittable to your school even if he wasn't a runner, is less distressing to those who are trying to get it done without prostituting themselves.
Philly Runner 1 wrote:
If you are complaining about losing a scholarship to a 14:40 5000m runner, you need to train harder. It's not like you lost it to a 23 year-old 13:16 5000m runner from Kenya.
Based on his 1500m PR, and his margin of victory in the race where he ran 14:40, he's probably closer to a 14 flat 5K guy.
How come King hasn't chimed in on this one? His opinion would be valuable.
No. There is not a difference. A foreigner is a foreigner. You can't have it both ways.
If someone can get good grades, they should be allowed to go to a school. Period.