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Bruce Dikenson
My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 11:56AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
last year are searching desparately for a job or working at Fed Ex or Starbucks while being 100k+ in student loan debt.

Thanks, government, for thinking that a college education would be the great equalizer in society.
yagtash
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:04PM - in reply to Bruce Dikenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
four out of ten.
Dennis Reynolds
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:08PM - in reply to Bruce Dikenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
WTF does the government have to do with it?
justin beibher
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:08PM - in reply to Bruce Dikenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Bruce Dikenson wrote:

last year are searching desparately for a job or working at Fed Ex or Starbucks while being 100k+ in student loan debt.

Thanks, government, for thinking that a college education would be the great equalizer in society.


Life is unfair. Get used to it.
Colage Dont Make Dum Man Smart
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:17PM - in reply to Bruce Dikenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Bruce Dikenson wrote:

last year are searching desparately for a job or working at Fed Ex or Starbucks while being 100k+ in student loan debt.

Thanks, government, for thinking that a college education would be the great equalizer in society.


Maybe you should reevaluate yourself. Based on your writing, I think that you would have been better off going to trade school out of high school.

1) Capitalize the first letter in a sentence (i.e. "Last year..."

2) Proof read your work. I knew after your first few words that you are an idiot. "last year are searching desparately" does not make any sense.

3) "Desparately" is spelled desperately.
Ho Hum
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:17PM - in reply to Bruce Dikenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Boo hoo, your imaginary exaggerated friends aren't doing very well :(

I have no sympathy for anyone coming out of undergrad with >$100k in debt.
Listen to the man
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:22PM - in reply to Bruce Dikenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You're right, everyone in America should just do the same job your friend is doing. We don't need doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants, teachers, scientists, bankers, pharmacists, nurses, managers...
Judge Smails
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:28PM - in reply to Listen to the man Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Listen to the man wrote:

We don't need doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants, teachers, scientists, bankers, pharmacists, nurses, managers...


Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too.
may I have combo # four please
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:31PM - in reply to justin beibher Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
A 5 shift a week server in a Times Square tourist trap restaurant that autograts 18% onto the bill took home[ a shade under 49 grand last year. I don't know her gross pay before tip-out and tax. How much do you have to gross to have a 49,000 takehome- 80-85 grand?

This is not a skilled waitperson job. It's a "bring me a slab of ribs 3 sides and lots of extra knapkins" joint.
yes, sir...
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:34PM - in reply to Bruce Dikenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I will agree with the OP. There is such a push for higher education. Everyone says you need a college degree to go somewhere in life, but that is just not true. The government needs to stop placing a guarantee on loans, or at the very least, put a small cap on it. The availability of government backing makes it too easy for kids to make a choice to borrow money without realizing the true cost, including the amount borrowed, interest, and 4 years of lost income from going to college. This is partially the governments fault, part kid fault, part parent fault and largely colleges faults for pricing education so high. Most parents will push their kids into college and have them registered before they are 18.
The Super
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:35PM - in reply to Bruce Dikenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Bruce Dikenson wrote:

last year are searching desparately for a job or working at Fed Ex or Starbucks while being 100k+ in student loan debt.

Thanks, government, for thinking that a college education would be the great equalizer in society.


If your friend with no college degree at age 22 is making $55,000, then he needs to keep that job. Hopefully he is saving a lot too, because if he were to lose that job, it's not likely he will find another one paying that much for someone with just a high school education.

The fact of the matter is that on average people with college degrees make more money during their lifetimes than those who don't.

Also, unless you are going to be a doctor or lawyer or some other professional job that pays really well but requires lots of schooling, you shouldn't be graduating from college with $100,000 in debt. People who do are a bit foolish.
Not really rich, but not 55k
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:35PM - in reply to Bruce Dikenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Am I the first person to comment that 55k is really not a good salary? In fact, it is downright laughable. Do you people live in mud huts?
So?
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 12:39PM - in reply to may I have combo # four please Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
And she isn't acquiring any skills to ever make more than that, while also living in an extremely high cost of living area. 75-80k in NYC isn't shit.
table
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 1:37PM - in reply to Not really rich, but not 55k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Not really rich, but not 55k wrote:

Am I the first person to comment that 55k is really not a good salary? In fact, it is downright laughable. Do you people live in mud huts?


Easy there rain man, we can't all be an autistic genius that inherited millions of dollars.
Sam Harris, Ph.D.
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 1:41PM - in reply to Not really rich, but not 55k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Not really rich, but not 55k wrote:

Am I the first person to comment that 55k is really not a good salary? In fact, it is downright laughable. Do you people live in mud huts?


55k is more than most recent college grads are making. That was my point.
aquemini
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 1:44PM - in reply to Not really rich, but not 55k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
55K is big time dough for a single playa!...if you live in awesome places like fargo, omaha, des moines, etc!


Not really rich, but not 55k wrote:

Am I the first person to comment that 55k is really not a good salary? In fact, it is downright laughable. Do you people live in mud huts?
nujorkarican
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 2:33PM - in reply to So? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
http://mycrains.crainsnewyork.com/stats-and-the-city/2012/economy/median-household-income


So? wrote:

And she isn't acquiring any skills to ever make more than that, while also living in an extremely high cost of living area. 75-80k in NYC isn't shit.


The waitress is making median Manhattan income. A couple/2 apartment mates each earning that kind of cake can live very well just across the Koch bridge. A 2 bedroom in areas like Astoria LIC Sunnyside(an under20 minute ride from Times Square or Grand Central) goes for 1400-1600 and if you tack a 10-15 minute walk instead of 5 on the end of the ride you can find some at 1200 for a big 2 bedroom.
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RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 2:53PM - in reply to Sam Harris, Ph.D. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sam Harris, Ph.D. wrote:


Not really rich, but not 55k wrote:

Am I the first person to comment that 55k is really not a good salary? In fact, it is downright laughable. Do you people live in mud huts?


55k is more than most recent college grads are making. That was my point.


You need to rethink how you evaluate salaries. It's about lifetime earnings not starting salaries. Investment banking and consulting salaries start off in the 55k range. Who do you think is better off in the long run: them or your friend? If your degree-holding Starbucks-working friends have the ambition to get their feet in the door, who do you think will be taken more seriously: them or your friend without a degree?
Randy Oldman
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 3:04PM - in reply to Bruce Dikenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What was her starting salary?
highly trained scientist
RE: My friend is 22 yrs and making 55k/year with no college degree and no debt. Meanwhile, my friends who graduated college 1/3/2013 3:04PM - in reply to Bruce Dikenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
your college friends shouldn't have majored in english, art history, philosophy, etc.


Bruce Dikenson wrote:

last year are searching desparately for a job or working at Fed Ex or Starbucks while being 100k+ in student loan debt.


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