Well here is the deal son wrote:
Kevin52, Consumer Reports says the power train is an issue and will not recomend the Dart . Any thoughts ?
First let me preface my remarks by stating that I am not an official company spokesman, I am a technician that works in the trenches, one of the many that carry out the testing which generates the data for the performance and calibration teams. Thus often we only get to see a small slice of the big picture. From time to time the company hosts a "ride and drive" event for us to evaluate the final product which is nice and very popular. There hasn't been one with the Dart yet, at least that I was aware of, so I haven't driven one.
Personally, I am not a big fan of Consumer Reports anymore. I had a subscription at one time but no longer so I cannot see their whole review. What is the "issue" you say Consumer Reports refers to? Is it from this brief overview available to non-subscribers?
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/dodge/dart.htmDodge Dart Overview
Dodge's first decent small car in decades is let down by its engines and interior accommodations. We tested both the 1.6-liter turbo and 2.0-liter four cylinder engines. The uplevel turbo has decent power, but sounds thrashy and the optional automated manual transmission is unrefined and stumbles. The base 2.0-liter is underpowered and the six-speed automatic upshifts too quickly, to maximize fuel economy. Handling is good on both highways and side roads and the ride is composed. Inside, the cabin is roomy up front but the rear seat is tight, and the front seats suffer from uneven, uncomfortable cushioning. The Uconnect touchscreen is one of the best on the market. Reliability is unknown.
1) They got the size of the turbo engine wrong, it is a 1.4-liter.
2) "Sounds thrashy" Certainly subjective and not well defined. I can't speak from personal experience here because I have not driven the final product yet. But I have seen many early Fiat Abarth cars bought by employees and now some Darts have shown up in the employee lot with 1.4 L turbo engines. I have yet to hear a complaint about NVH issues. I ran into a gal (whom I did not know) driving a Fiat Abarth (1.4L turbo) at an event outside of work and asked her how she liked her car. She was quite happy with it, no complaints of excessive noise. I am not saying no one has ever complained, just that I have not heard any yet.
3)"The base 2.0-liter is underpowered" It has 20 HP and 20 lb-ft of torque on the Honda Civic base engine so that is not likely the issue. However if the stats I saw are correct the Dart is a bit heavier than the Civic, which combined with an auto trans calibration that maximizes fuel economy, may be where this complaint comes from. But what are they comparing it to? The 6-speed manual likely negates this issue. Of course again this is subjective; It will be too slow for some and quite adequate for others.
4) "the six-speed automatic upshifts too quickly, to maximize fuel economy." Who doesn't want to maximize fuel economy these days? This is not the hot rod version of the Dart.