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For 100m sprinters 5'9" and under, based on a lot of research and calculations I've done, the top speed per 100m is usually around .88 of the finish time (ie, if they run 10.0, the fastest 10m interval will usually be .88s, or 8.8s if theoretically extended to a full 100m). .88 of 12.9 is 11.35, and with Mo's "strength" or "endurance" (man, I dislike those terms in this context), it's not surprising to me that Salazar has stated that Mo has run a flying 100m in, surprise, surprise, 11.3 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1195163/2/index.htm). |
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overall distance runner are the best athletes football players in the hallway "get out of the way Bitches" cheerleader see you in the HJ pit.... like you like |
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Are blocks mandatory in the 100m? Would Farah have been better off using a standing start? |
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I also noticed that (very roughly eyeballing the video with a metronome, as a drummer) that Mo's stride rate is hanging out at around 240-250spm at ~60m while the boxer was at around 280spm. If I remember correctly, Mo's kicks are usually around 225-230spm. |
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Per this profile the boxer, Anthony Joshua, ran sub-11 at age 15: http://www.gbboxing.org.uk/boxers/anthony-joshua |
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Why aren't people about O.J, post knee surgeries, running 9.69 WITHOUT spikes? |
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It's embarrassing that the best distance runner in the world ran a time slower than many, many mediocre high school girls. He was surely told by Salazar, a control freak, not to risk tearing his hammy. But he surely could not have done much better and this is illustrative of just how different sprinting speed is from closing speed in a long distance race. Great distance runners do not have the power to sprint even adequately. And great sprinters cannot do anything beyond 800m. |
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Didn't they have a 400 or 800m? |
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I take it your pr for 800m is nowhere near 1.48. I would suggest he can sprint 'adequately', you moron. |
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'no way a likely 12-flat/low-12 guy at his peak breaks 50 no matter how great his endurance' He is right, others are forgetting that all runners slow up a lot once you get past 200m I'm not convinced that Mo could run 12 flat though after watching that run though. A full second is a long way on such a short race and unless a distance runner becomes totally unfit their 100m time does not change that much What surprises me and I'm sure a lot of other people is that I always thought you needed more speed than that at the top level |
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like i've said all year his line of fit at his peak ( london ) woud expect to be ~ 51.5 / 1'48.3 -> 3'32.1 4'48.3 7'24.1 12'44.5 26'35.2 or 51.4 / 1'48.2 -> 3'32.1 4'48.4 7'24.4 12'45.5 26'38.5 or 51.4 / 1'48.1 -> 3'31.7 4'47.8 7'23.3 12'43.2 26'32.7 or 51.3 / 1'48.0 -> 3'31.7 4'47.9 7'23.7 12'44.3 26'36.0 all depending on how quick at 1500 it's reckoned he maya been ( did a 3'34 actual during heavy training this year & has a 3'33.9pb from 3y ago when he coudn't even crack 13'00 - 13'09 that year ) & 5k is no problem since geb2 went 12'46 with a 54 finish - mo woud expect to have been there at the death these guys don't have great 400 speed they just have fantastic endurance to be almost able to run their 400pb at end of slow races geb2 though looks special he does look a bit quicker on basic speed, but blew the 5k race possible lines : 51.0 / 1'47.5 -> 3'31.0 4'47.0 7'22.5 12'42.8 26'34.3 or 51.0 / 1'47.4 -> 3'30.6 4'46.4 7'21.4 12'40.5 26'28.5 ( ignore the 10k as he trains only for 5k & can't expect to run his 10k current potential off just 5k training ) he can make a serious run at komen's 7'20 next year, but the 12'37wr may be slightly tougher |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biv_97-_TYw |
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Kind of interesting that the Brownlee brothers in the lanes on either side of Farah in lanes 3 and 5 are near the back of the race, one of them getting beat by the trap shooter Wilson running in lane 8. Both are probably legitimate sub-30 10k guys but don't show any ability to accelerate here. The swimmer Jamieson in lane 2 was slow out of the blocks but didn't give up much to Farah after that. |
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Was suprised with the Brownlee Bros 100m time as well 14+ secs does anyone have the exact time? Even I was faster than that and I always though it was a limiting factor as it hold you up right through the distances as you are running so much closer to your max I would have thought a sub 30 10km runner would be faster than that, especially when they ran around 2:03 over 800m. If someone is running 28+ for 400m that is a pretty good conversion Pity the race was not over 200m as that evens out a poor start a bit more |
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The race just goes to show how much speed endurance these guys, Farah and the Brownlee brothers have and just how little most letsrun poster know about what it takes to be a top endurance athlete. How many times do we read posts or hear runners say that they lack the speed to be a top runner blah blah blah? |
| aiopsdf[aios |
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No, you are the plonker. He wouldn't go under 12.8 just like Sprintgeezer said in his thread a few weeks ago. |
| kdkd |
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It's not blah blah blah. How many of those runners can run a 51 second 400m? If you can't do that, then you won't be a top runner. |
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There was a guy at my highschool when I was a freshman, who was very fast, ran 9.6 in the 100 yards on dirt. Fast at that time. He never ran the 440 and didn't even like the 220 but the coach got him to run it one time. Everyone said that was the worst they'd ever seen anyone die on a 440 ever! He ran 55 seconds and never did it again. The point - so much for speed - vs speed endurance. |
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Another fellow was always chasing the sprinter on sprints, but never got close. By the end of the season he ran a 1:52 for 880 yards. |
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You have no point. Some 100m sprinter does the 400m for the first time and never again and you are using that as your point? Did you run your lifetime mile PR the first time you ran a mile? |