Who is it? Any video to back this? Thanks, I'm in an argument.
Who is it? Any video to back this? Thanks, I'm in an argument.
nuggins wrote:
Who is it? Any video to back this? Thanks, I'm in an argument.
1) Rupp, easily.
2) No.
A couple years ago it would probably have been Solinsky. However, in the last year, Rupp won an Olympic Medal and Solinsky had his hamstring reattached. There is no argument.
Ummm...given that Rupp has run 47.xx for the 400m, I'm going to go with Rupp.
Solinsky has a faster mile and 5k PR than Rupp.
Galen has good finishing speed for a 10k race, but I think Solinsky, when he is fully recovered, will be able to take down the Ruppster.
easy answer wrote:
Ummm...given that Rupp has run 47.xx for the 400m, I'm going to go with Rupp.
47.xx? Do you have any proof of this? With that kind of speed and Rupp's strength he should be able to run a 1:44 800. His 800 pr appears to be 1:50 (1:49.87).
Sorry but I'm gonna have to call BS.
Seems like time for ventolin.
My guess would be around 51.2 400 and faster than Solinsky for the 300.
Really? No one thinks they can bust out at least a 49 second 400m?
I think Rupp's 52 second repeats are quite impressive.
But I know nothing.
It's a shame Solinksy got injured. Or he would have gotten the silver this year.
It's a shame i'm not 3 minutes faster over 5k, then i'd be the world record holder.
ddffv wrote:
Really? No one thinks they can bust out at least a 49 second 400m?
Out of the blocks, no. I doubt either could break 50.0. That is seriously fast running for 10k guys running 100 plus mile weeks.
I would be surprised if any 5-10 runner in history has done it, unless it was early in their career and their primary event at the time was 800-1500.
Maybe Geb and Bekele.
Salazar has said that Galen has sub 50 speed. I think Rupp would beat Solinsky over 300. Salazar has also said that Galen has better top end sprint speed than Mo. I think a lot of people underestimate Rupp's speed because early in his career he did not have the strength to close well in fast races. His speed has been improving for years and from what I can tell Solinsky does not work as much on sprinting as Rupp. I think even if Solinsky was healthy Rupp could beat him in any distance. Rupp has gotten a lot better since we have last seen him race Solinsky. May I ask why 300 and not 200 or 400?
break it up wrote:
ddffv wrote:Really? No one thinks they can bust out at least a 49 second 400m?
Out of the blocks, no. I doubt either could break 50.0. That is seriously fast running for 10k guys running 100 plus mile weeks.
I would be surprised if any 5-10 runner in history has done it, unless it was early in their career and their primary event at the time was 800-1500.
Maybe Geb and Bekele.
I guarantee that both Rupp can go sub 50 for a 400. He has closed in 53-54 in a 10k so there's no way that he can't run 49.xx fresh. When Chris was healthy, I would guess that he was also a sub 50 guy. For that matter, most guys who have run sub 3:40 in the 1500 have 49.xx 400 speed. Obviously there are a few exceptions, but when you get to that level, most of the guys can absolutely haul.
Solinsky is broken and washed up. Too many "Badger Miles". Rupp wins by three lengths, minimum.
Rupp doesn't have the body mass Solinsky does. Solinsky would start faster, accelerate faster, but Rupp would come on at 150-250. Rupp would then tie up as he would be giving a harder effort to keep up with Solinsky's higher speed potential.
Solinsky has a greater speed reserve and in 200-400m distances thats what wins usually as both are extremely aerobically conditioned.
Both could probably run 34 high-35 for 300m.
Rupp starts to pull even at 400m and probably is faster from 800-10k. Rupp's slower 5k pr does't mean anything in this argument and likely Rupp's potential is still around 12:50 maybe even sub 12:50 if he can get a fast race in somewhere.
Everyone on this thread who doesn't think that Rupp could break 50 is an idiot. Rupp could break 50 at the end of a workout. He is at least a 48 second 400 runner (3:34 1500 anyone).
Also Rupp is clearly faster than Solinsky. Solinsky has always been a strength runner (ie drop a fast last 800, but I've never seen him with an electric kick like Rupp or Farah).
I also disagree with your idea that larger mass = faster sprint speed. I know a lot of bigger distance runners who are all strength and a lot of skinny distance runners who are lightning fast.
the rocket. wrote:
Everyone on this thread who doesn't think that Rupp could break 50 is an idiot. Rupp could break 50 at the end of a workout. He is at least a 48 second 400 runner (3:34 1500 anyone).
Also Rupp is clearly faster than Solinsky. Solinsky has always been a strength runner (ie drop a fast last 800, but I've never seen him with an electric kick like Rupp or Farah).
Ummm...If I recall correctly, Fernandez has a slightly faster 1500 pr than Rupp (3:34.60 to 3:34.75 anyone). Are you going to tell me that Fernandez "is at least a 48 second 400 runner"? Please don't because that would be just too embarrassing.
It is true, however, that both Rupp and Solinsky could break 50. Fernandez, no chance.
German is a different runner than Rupp. He has different strengths and weaknesses.
German is a super-efficient runner. Probably the most efficient runner in the US right now. He is a metronome. He doesn't have a huge kick but he is able to maintain crazy paces all day long.
Also should be noted that Gale ran 3:34 while focusing on the 5k 10k and German after months of focusing on the 1500.
My guess for PRs over 400 if they went all out in top (distance) shape.
Fernandez - 49.9
Solinsky - 48.9
Rupp - 48.5