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mathematician
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:46PM - in reply to college kid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
100% apparently.
Child Please
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:46PM - in reply to college kid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"Goddamn, that's a great idea! Why didn't I think of it?"
- Nick Symmonds, about an hour ago.
Brian
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:48PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sprintgeezer wrote:

If I understand correctly, she was doing this WHILE she was married, and he KNEW about it?!

That's certainly strange. He is a lawyer, however, so there's a good chance he's a moral relativist.

What are the chances that he sent clients her way?

The fast-track to partnership.

OTOH, maybe he's gay and they never do it anyway, so what would either of them care?

Lots of possible explanations, I would like to hear some more reporting.


Only idiots aren't moral relativists. Being a moral relativist doesn't mean you don't think anything is wrong, it just means you have no durable absolute criteria to judge it against. Every effort to rationalize morality fails (see "the trolley problem" and other scenarios that lead to moral dumbfounding)

http://philosophynow.org/issues/82/Morality_is_a_Culturally_Conditioned_Response
simply orange
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:48PM - in reply to might be wejo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

might be wejo wrote:
I would still bet 10 people out of 10 don't know who she is even in Wisco. I live in the DC area and pretty much all non runners have little to no idea who Alan Webb is. How many DC 7 year olds who know Webb is (the age of SFH's daughter)? I would guess none.

This is tangential to the main story, but in her prime, Suzy Favor was a big deal in Wisconsin. MUCH bigger than Alan Webb, whoever he is.

Maybe this story will turn a spotlight on the general stigmatization of sex in the US, particularly paid-sex - which would be a good thing. I don't buy assault rifles, pot, or sex, but I think it's pretty crazy which one of these three is legal.
R U Cereal?
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:49PM - in reply to sad sad sad Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

sad sad sad wrote:

Child Please, the dispute you two are having is merely over the definition of 'crush'. I believe that you are using it lightly as signifying a sexual attraction and maybe delusion that you like their 'personality' which you could not possibly know, not having really spent time with them in a non-media way. R U cereal is using 'crush' to mean the beginnings of a romantic love, which is much more than sexual attraction. It is a deep desire to be around someone and have them like you. In this definition, sexual attraction and wanting someone sexually is only a fraction of the crush. Fantasies involve intimacy and closeness but not necessarily sex.


Try speaking for yourself. You might find it a helpful change.

Regardless of whether you want to define "crush" as "signifying a sexual attraction and maybe delusion that you like their 'personality'" or as "the beginnings of a romantic love, which is much more than sexual attraction" I have never had a crush on a media or sports celebrity.

But the more important point is that you should really, really try speaking for yourself. Please refrain from telling me or others what I mean by my own words.

Thanks.
codger
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:51PM - in reply to wicker r Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
How will this play out in Madison, WI?
I know Madison is liberal, but it is still the midwest.

SFH was going through a sexual mid-life change (not crisis).
She was hooked after the 1st date. Perhaps if that 1st date hadn't gone well......
RuKiddingMe!!!
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:51PM - in reply to R U Cereal? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
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Brian
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:54PM - in reply to Bros before it Snows Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Bros before it Snows wrote:

Classic. A woman has sex with men for money, and she's a whore, slut, prostitute, etc. Her name is forever tarnished.

A man has sex with 50 women for free, and he's praised by his 'bros' and society as being 'a real man.'


Walk out of your women's studies class and into an evolutionary psychology class.

1)Women are the primary slut shamers since sex is a market with men as buyers and women as sellers (who would like to control the price).

2)Sluttitude is a real sign of infidelity risk in women but not in men (10+ pre marital partners increases a woman's infidelity risk in marriage - it takes 30+ for a similar increase in men - just find some studies in google scholar). Men are hardwired to be suspicious of cuckoldry where their resources will be used to raise a baby not theres since men have no paternity certainty. Natural selection selects for men careful about who they give resources to.

3)Men love sluts, we just don't want to waste resources on them.
wicker r
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:55PM - in reply to RuKiddingMe!!! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
black page is down - taste returns to lrc
good answer
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:55PM - in reply to Child Please Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Child Please wrote:


might be wejo wrote:
I would still bet 10 people out of 10 don't know who she is even in Wisco. ... How many DC 7 year olds who know Webb is (the age of SFH's daughter)? I would guess none.


And how many can find out in 30 seconds with Google? All of them.


How about a local paper already picking it up:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/report-olympian-hamilton-worked-for-escort-service-nj83v7j-184293031.html
sad sad sad
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:56PM - in reply to anton chigurh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I've thought about it a lot.

1) Having a moral authority dictate which voluntary behaviors we can engage in, to me, is a much greater attack on dignity than letting SFH live her life as she pleases.
2) What other people do should have no impact on your sexual experiences.
3) I strongly suspect SFH contracted no sexual diseases during her stint as an escort. Irregardless, there are many known and effective ways of not exposing oneself to STDs.
4) People have different desires and needs. They respond to having multiple sexual partners in different ways.
5) Sex is always just sex. The experience varies in meaning and importance. Live and let live.[/quote]

Thank you for thinking. I am not suggesting that I or a 'moral authority' should have any power over someone's free will. What people I don't know do does not directly impact my sexual experiences. I completely understand the desire to have multiple partners and lots of sex. Not all of our desires should be fulfilled. I also have the desire to harm people I don't like. Certainly you would not suggest that I should practice that freely. I don't want to stop anyone from having all the sex they want. I just want them to think about whether that is what's best for them, and in this case, their family.

These men who talk about the 'full girlfriend experience,' they clearly are not fulfilled by just having sex with a woman. They want the relationship to be something more. They are trying to buy back a part of their lives they have neglected. Of course they want sex, but they also want some experience of intimacy and connection and caring, and nobody really talks about that. Maybe it's not everyone, but a heck of a lot of people. You can be a real man who likes women and sex and has a high sex drive and still need something more than that. In fact, I would argue that is true for ALL real men, and only not true for psychopaths, who have no capacity for empathy or remorse.
i know im a dick, the original
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:57PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sprintgeezer wrote:

This revelation of moral turpitude is just as shocking as any suggestion that current world-record holders would use PED's.


anyone know what suzy's nickname was back in the day when she was at wisconsin? suzy flavor. she had a reputation across the ncaa. this is not shocking as indicated by sprintgeezer above.
whirledpeas
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 1:57PM - in reply to personality evaluator Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
ex porn star harry reems runs a real estate firm, she can go to work for him!

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/650217262/From-porn-to-pillar-of-society.html?pg=all
stated
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 2:00PM - in reply to whirledpeas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
True 'Nuff
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 2:01PM - in reply to sad sad sad Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So let me get this straight--a woman I used to always fantasize about was technically available to me? Not fair!
possum1424
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 2:01PM - in reply to wicker r Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

wicker r wrote:


might be wejo wrote:


possum1424 wrote:


This reeks of dumb. What about 10 people on the street in Madison, WI? You know, where her daughter is growing up, going to school, etc. Think that might change things a little? Think going to school might be a bit rougher for the child? Think their "private issues" might be a little less private than you think in Wisconsin?



I would still bet 10 people out of 10 don't know who she is even in Wisco. I live in the DC area and pretty much all non runners have little to no idea who Alan Webb is. How many DC 7 year olds who know Webb is (the age of SFH's daughter)? I would guess none.


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how about 10 kids in her daughter's schoolroom tomorrow? I'm thinking 30 out of 30 know her mom's a prostitute.

How about 10 of the next people mr hamilton meets? They probably know too. really.


This. This is what I'm saying. Even if she were no more famous than your avg. Joe, everyone in their neighborhood, school, professional environment, etc. is going to know what's up, causing a hell of a lot of trouble for the husband and daughter.
Was Mystified
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 2:01PM - in reply to whirledpeas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'm probably one of the least judgmental people on here, but I just find it amazing that she told several of her clients who she really was and figured they wouldn't tell because of their "relationship." Yikes!
ataglance
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 2:01PM - in reply to whirledpeas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What was the $300 "extra" fee for?
ha ha ha to the first line.
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 2:02PM - in reply to ataglance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
whirledpeas
RE: Suzy Favor-Hamilton: Vegas Escort 12/20/2012 2:02PM - in reply to Raging Bull Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
20 years ago, she had, possibly, the best derriere on planet earth.
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