Hm?
Hm?
They are entirely different things and are basically two different physical makeups (Fast twitch vs. slow twitch when put into very very simplistic terms).
4 minute mile plenty of athletes have 40 inch verts but not many can break 4 in the mile
Br0ski wrote:
4 minute mile plenty of athletes have 40 inch verts but not many can break 4 in the mile
Are you sure? I just read that Michael Jordan only had a 47 inch vertical jump and that the average NBA player has a vertical around 30 inches.
A little over 1000 people in history have run a sub 4 minute mile
Probably over 1000 people in history that could jump 40 inches
If you've 6'5"+ with a 40 inch vertical and can shoot, you're going to make a lot more money in the NBA than anybody who can run a sub-4--and that includes El Guerrouj and Lagat.
I'd take the 40" vertical any day.
a 40 inch vertical jump is meaningless as is a 60 inch vertical jump. It will never generate the same interest as the mile. It is like asking if it is more impressive for a 400lb woman to run 1 mile or a college runner to run sub 4.
Yeah France wrote:
a 40 inch vertical jump is meaningless as is a 60 inch vertical jump. It will never generate the same interest as the mile. It is like asking if it is more impressive for a 400lb woman to run 1 mile or a college runner to run sub 4.
You sound like someone who has never done a sport outside of distance running. The vertical jump is something that nearly every basketball or football player is interested in. Much more than they are interested in the mile. In fact, I hear multiple times every year about vertical jumps on ESPN. I never hear the average ESPN commentator mention a mile time. Let alone a mile in under 4 minutes.
someone had to do it wrote:
A little over 1000 people in history have run a sub 4 minute mile
Probably over 1000 people in history that could jump 40 inches
'Probably' based on what?
I'm sure a naturally athletic man would be able to train specifically for a forty inch vertical and reach it within a year.
40,0? wrote:
I'm sure a naturally athletic man would be able to train specifically for a forty inch vertical and reach it within a year.
As another poster stated, NBA players don't even have 40 inch verticals and they've been training for most of their lives.
A 4 minute mile is an actual athletic accomplishment, while a vertical is usually just used as a measure of athletic potential. A better parallel would be like a massive lung capacity vs. a vertical or something - both which indicate the potential for performance but aren't an actual performance in itself.
kdkdk wrote:
'Probably' based on what?
The fact that it is probable
understand?
kdkdk wrote:
You sound like someone who has never done a sport outside of distance running. The vertical jump is something that nearly every basketball or football player is interested in. Much more than they are interested in the mile. In fact, I hear multiple times every year about vertical jumps on ESPN. I never hear the average ESPN commentator mention a mile time. Let alone a mile in under 4 minutes.
And how often do you hear anything on ESPN that isn't football/basketball/baseball?
very rarely
stupid comparison
kdkdk wrote:
As another poster stated, NBA players don't even have 40 inch verticals and they've been training for most of their lives.
Not quite.
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/results/vertical-jump.htmNow, why don't you list all of the sub-4 guys who make or made as much as the NBA minimum.
kdkdk wrote:
You sound like someone who has never done a sport outside of distance running. The vertical jump is something that nearly every basketball or football player is interested in. Much more than they are interested in the mile. In fact, I hear multiple times every year about vertical jumps on ESPN. I never hear the average ESPN commentator mention a mile time. Let alone a mile in under 4 minutes.
It's nice as an ability, but you still need to be good at the actual sport. Nobody cares about Joe Schmo Gymrat who has a great vertical but can't shoot worth a damn.
coach d wrote:
kdkdk wrote:As another poster stated, NBA players don't even have 40 inch verticals and they've been training for most of their lives.
Not quite.
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/results/vertical-jump.htmNow, why don't you list all of the sub-4 guys who make or made as much as the NBA minimum.
That was a typo. I meant to say that MOST NBA players do not have a 40 inch vertical. Your website says this also. It says the average jump is only 28 inches.
someone had to do it wrote:
kdkdk wrote:'Probably' based on what?
The fact that it is probable
understand?
No I don't understand. How is it probable?
kjkj wrote:
A 4 minute mile is an actual athletic accomplishment, while a vertical is usually just used as a measure of athletic potential. A better parallel would be like a massive lung capacity vs. a vertical or something - both which indicate the potential for performance but aren't an actual performance in itself.
I disagree. They are both athletic accomplishments on their own.
But for your line of thinking, let's say the vertical is for a basketball player and the mile time is for a non-track athlete like a soccer player. Then they are both metrics for the potential for performance.
I have no idea the answer to OP's question, but I do know some things:
Mile times are real. Vertical Jumps are not only horrendously inaccurate, but also lied about and they pick up an "Urban Legend" thing to them.
1. Michael Jordan did NOT have a 48" vertical. This would put his head 6" over the rim. There is no evidence anywhere of him doing this.
2. There is no reliably accurate way to measure vertical that is currently in use. The mats are ok, the vertec is ok, but they have margins of error that can be cheated. Dartfish video might do a pretty good job.
3. No one has ever had a 60" vertical.
4. Kidour Ziani has never had a vertical even close to 56". Show me a video of his head getting to rim level, from a camera that isn't using perspetive tricks, let alone the 6" above the rim he'd need for a 56" vertical.
5. Almost everyone on the the internet is totally effing clueless when it comes to vertical jump numbers.