Amy Yoder Begley to be the head women's cross country coach at UConn. Interesting, but I think she'll do a good job.
Amy Yoder Begley to be the head women's cross country coach at UConn. Interesting, but I think she'll do a good job.
I'm not at all surprised that UConn went with a good female runner, because they had one previously and it worked out well for them, so they tried to fit that mold again. Yoder Begley comes off as a flake/a little unprofessional on Twitter, but I expect that she will be able to attract good female distance runners to UConn.
According to all of today's coaching hiring announcements. Tennessee, oklahoma state, north Texas. Apparently. Actual coaching means Jack. These days, as long as you align yourself with the right schools and more well know coaches.
I agree that the coaches hired may not have as shining of a resume but as a head coach isn't it more important to have people around you that you can trust?
Sometimes people with the best resumes just aren't the right fit... I agree there is a lot of "who you know" but isn't it that way in every job?
I don't think this is exclusive to college track & field coaching...
Thanks cub fan for hitting the nail on the head.
I'm glad some people get it. It's about forming a cohesive hard working team who will get along and not let their egos stand in the way of a common goal. Sometimes that means hiring the young promising coach because THEY WILL WORK THEIR BUTT OFF. Period. And if they don't, they won't last long and move on, but the point is its about the best fit, not just most qualified. Issues like knowledge of area for recruiting, relationship with the other coaches, etc.
I should know, I am one of those young coaches about to get my first full time division 1 gigs. I'm sure y'all would tear me apart on here like y'all do everyone else.
Truth is everyone who tears and criticizes these hires apart aren't in good positions anyways. Just jealous. So relax people and be happy for young blood in track and field. The profession is growing and pay is increasing. It's good for everyone.
I have a close friend who was offered a big time D-1 Softball coaching job. She's a legit coach--mid 30's, excellent experience at D-1 Level, but as she told me yesterday, "I have had so many opportunities to be a head coach at moderate D-1 and high level D-2 schools, based on my resume, but it's only because of who I know that I even get interviews for the top level D-1 jobs." in other words, the AD's could care less about her coaching abilities--they just want her name. I saw that same thing happening at another school, where an olympic gold medalist softball coach did a terrible job, but because of her name, earned a ridiculously high amount of dinero.
face it Spot On--you played the game schmoozing the right people, kissing their asses, and left your athletes in the dust. when you were at track meets this spring, you were more likely speaking with coaches of other teams, rather than thinking about your long jumpers, discus throwers, and 5k runners. you looked out for number one, and it paid dividends. congratulations.
I know he has tried to transfere the last two years to Arizona, and Tenn but has not been allowed to
Hahahahaha, I'm rolling on the floor laughing at how butt hurt you are about your hypothetical situation you think is my life. You know nothing about me, my passion, my path or desire for the future.
Left my athletes in the dust? I don't care about my athletes?
You have no clue what the situation is. Obviously if its my first gig I haven't left anyone in the dust. Believe it or not, sometimes head coaches see hard work and potential in young coaches, not just a name, I should know. No one on this thread would even recognize my name. And if you really were a college coach you wouldn't be so clueless as to not believe all the lies and bs on this thread.
Usually the person with the best resume..experience...so on is usually a hard working person.
If a coach was very successful at many D1 programs, it usually says that the coach knows what he is doing and can get his athletes prepared.
NOT that he/she formed the best relationships with their co workers.
Listen you can win with other coaches not liking each other.
I've worked in an athletic department for a long time and I can say recruiting is NOT hard!!! Honestly, you just have to put forward some effort. Geez, you would think it took a gift from god to recruit well. NO! It just takes you picking up the darn phone and getting them on campus. Obviously it takes more than that but any coach will tell you if you get them on campus you got a great shot at them coming.
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And if you really were a college coach you wouldn't be so clueless as to not believe all the lies and bs on this thread.
Obviously no English test to get your job. (Or possibly no logic test.)
A graduate heading up the head position at UNT?!?! Really come on!! This program is heading in a downward spiral.
largefry wrote:
A graduate heading up the head position at UNT?!?! Really come on!! This program is heading in a downward spiral.
Yikes. No recruiting experience, limited at best coaching experience. Alums were already pissed about Burroughs leaving now this will drive them away further.
I know he has tried to transfere the last two years to Arizona, and Tenn but has not been allowed to[/quote]
Really? Whats holding him back? Interesting how the 2 most recent guys to have transferred out of the program (Kipchirchir/Oklahoma State & Okwera/Tennessee) and have improved dramatically, especially in Kipchirchir's case.
Typical UNT, they're a joke. Whatever is the easiest and cheapest way to try and get by.
Or some head coaches run off good coaches cause they are scared to be overshadowed...Look at Tennessee history....C G Smith, Frasier, you can throw in Davis, Elliott. etc...
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head coach ego wrote:
Or some head coaches run off good coaches cause they are scared to be overshadowed...
This happens far more than people want to know.
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head coach ego wrote:Or some head coaches run off good coaches cause they are scared to be overshadowed...
This happens far more than people want to know.
Agreed, every HC I have worked for has an ego problem!!
Quite ruining the thread with nonsense and arguing.
head coach ego wrote:
Or some head coaches run off good coaches cause they are scared to be overshadowed...Look at Tennessee history....C G Smith, Frasier, you can throw in Davis, Elliott. etc...
I'm not a JJ support or have any association with UT but I'm pretty sure none of those people left because they were run off when you look at the situations for what they are rather than what you want to perceive them to be...
Carol left a program that she was helping win NCAA titles to be a head coach and try and win her own titles while also assuredly getting a big pay raise.
Frasier left to return to the west coast and his alma mater, he also probably got a pay raise (but it might be a negative outcome with the change in cost of living), and escaped the negative outlook of the future at UT.
Elliott was let go and I don't think anything he ever did ever overshadowed anything JJ ever did. What has he done since?