2013 College Coaching Positions Open(ing)

I heard from a coach at AZ the same thing about the girl at Ole Miss; she was shady and manipulative and the got rid of her because of her underhandedness with others on staff.

wrong!! wrote:

This is ridiculous. First of all, why are you posting something that you quite obviously know little to nothing about?

The reality is that she recruited and coached the women. Li did NOT. She did not coach Lawi and I am not sure why that would be on her bio.

She also was not fired. She chose to move on for many reasons.

Stop dragging peoples name and reputation through the mud because you heard some gossip. Get a life!

Don't know her. Don't care about her coaching ability. My only potential problem is this, rumor has it that Ole Miss brings recruits in for official visits (women distance anyway) and starts the visit off by isolating each recruit and demanding they commit right then and there. Not saying it's 100% true, but have heard it more than once. If true, they are scum for doing it.

Any word on Cincinnati???

wrong!! wrote:

This is ridiculous. First of all, why are you posting something that you quite obviously know little to nothing about?

The reality is that she recruited and coached the women. Li did NOT. She did not coach Lawi and I am not sure why that would be on her bio.

She also was not fired. She chose to move on for many reasons.

Stop dragging peoples name and reputation through the mud because you heard some gossip. Get a life!

This is getting old and obvious. Someone has a personal ax to grind with Erin or Ole Miss. It seems like she's done quite well and whomever keeps posting either needs to own up with facts and a name or shut up and let her do her job.

UConn has their woman....or at least you can not apply to the job any more!

Question;what head jobs are still not filled?

Distance/XC GA position available working with Snyder at Temple

http://ustfccca.site-ym.com/networking/apply_now.aspx?view=2&id=161787

creeperrr wrote:

Any word on Cincinnati???

Both on their distance hire as well as womens asst. sprints position ?

ewinwee wrote:

I heard from a coach at AZ the same thing about the girl at Ole Miss; she was shady and manipulative and the got rid of her because of her underhandedness with others on staff.

Yep, that's what I was talking about. I have no axes to grind. This is the hire/fire thread, try not to wear your emotions on your sleeve while reading discussion of why people are getting hired and fired.

Carjay to Missouri.

screwed over wrote:

Wick basically got screwed over at BSU despite doing a great job with limited resources while there .

Please. He was given more to work with than most of the previous distance coaches at that school. He was lucky that Hardy was sympathetic to a decently strong distance group, having come from NAU. On the women's side, it's not so big of an issue, b/c there is generally always money to spare. He did the right thing and brought in some very good sub 10:50 2M girls that have done well under his coaching.

He also brought in, and was given more money for men's distance than the previous 5 distance coaches were generally allotted on a yearly basis. He did the right thing here as well, and landed at least 3 sub 9:00 2M boys and a few more sub 9:10 guys during his time there-not to mention a stolen transfer here and there. He has not produced on the national level with these as well as he has with his female runners. His women have re-written many of the school records, his guys...not so much.

In fact, the leaders on his most successful cross team that won the conference title on the men's side during their last year in the WAC a few seasons ago were all a previous coaches recruits. It's telling that the best runner of THIS group left as soon as he could(had a year to spare in Grad school), went down to AZ State, and was turned into a 13:45/29:low guy in one year by Louie Q.

So enough of this revisionist "young Coach" BS that goes on in this forum. He was lucky to get that job. He was the SIXTH candidate after everybody else turned it down, and was put in b/c the coach who hired him had no other real option. I mean C'mon. He was a D-III guy who had done some waterboy/van driving/stop watch holding/Grad asst. work while at Minnesota, and sold the idea that he "had a hand in developing H. Mead." That's crap, but generally the way it is done these days. Now, HE DID make the most of it.

I guess when you talk about "limited resources" it is relative. As compared to what, Texas? Stanford? How about we compare the Boise State setup to a similar school, in which case he had a great situation to work with. Let's call him what he is, a budding great women's coach, who hasn't figured out how to get it done on the men's side yet. Having said that, I wish him luck where ever he lands. I hope others can keep it real out there. Part of the reason why we have guys in some of these coaching positions who have only produced 3 national qualifiers in a 25 year career is B/C no one has kept it real.

And for the record, yes, I was a D-I coach who produced All Americans in my brief career, and I got out b/c I felt I wasn't good enough, despite the fact that I did produce sub 8:35st/13:50/29:00 guys and sub 2:04/4:20/9:30/16:25/34:20 women. Some of these guys need to get real about how good they really are...

What is going on at Cal State LA?

Who is taking this job?

seriously man. really sad. do you think john mcdonnell ever posted on letsrun.

Nope.

Speaker 6 wrote:

Don't know her. Don't care about her coaching ability. My only potential problem is this, rumor has it that Ole Miss brings recruits in for official visits (women distance anyway) and starts the visit off by isolating each recruit and demanding they commit right then and there. Not saying it's 100% true, but have heard it more than once. If true, they are scum for doing it.

That's not true at all. I went on a visit to Ole Miss and they didn't do this so I'm not sure where you got this story from?

Duhhh wrote:

Rumor has it he's heading to Texas A&M as the jumps coach to take over the vacated spot there.

Soooo now what's the next rumor.......?

Does anyone else dislike when you see a coach inflate their stats. In this particular link show the coach actually only produced two different athletes that became All American. Then they go on to list a number of accomplishments the team did in events he didn't even coach.

Dunn didn't get Stanford HC bc Floreal dogged him behind the scenes.

Floreal took athletes away from Dunn from day one. (First the 1/2 milers then the women: PattiSue)

But he had some clout recruiting and it was easy just to take him, than make a late hire.

Word from the horses mouth: Dunn was disrespected the entire time.