What The hell are you talking about? You obviously know nothing about the MAC When Kevin first arrived there they were the worst team in the Mac by far. They had never been good. But he one Mac championships and had nationally ranked teams in 2001 and 2002. They were Mac runner-up in 2003 2005 and 2009. They were Mac champions in 2010 2011 2012 with all three of those years being NCAA qualifying teams. Even back in the early years they had numerous All-Americans including former American recordholder Briana Shook who ran 929 for the steeple. You obviously have not been following very long. I am a grumpy old man who has been around.