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Ghgu
Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 11:25AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/kbenfield/natgeo_surveys_countries_trans.html

It seems like outside East Coast cities, the only walkable cities with good public transport systems are Chicago,SF,Seattle, and Miami.

It's obvious why there is a weight crisis. People have access to cheap calories and don't have to move around.
photofinish
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 11:33AM - in reply to Ghgu Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
We built this country to go wherever the hell we want (car culture).
Not to ride around with "diversity" and still not getting to where we were headed.
It isn't the government's job to move us from point A to point B.
Walking on the train?
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 11:40AM - in reply to Ghgu Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Ghgu wrote:
It's obvious why there is a weight crisis. People have access to cheap calories and don't have to move around.


I'm confused. Are you asking about public transportation (trains/subway/etc) or about walking? Because they're very different things.

Population density (or lack thereof) is one reason for lack of public trans.
Hingel McCringleberry
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 11:51AM - in reply to Ghgu Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It works pretty well in many urban areas, but with a few exceptions, it isn't really functional in the suburbs (which itself is an American invention).
Low rent rendevous
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 11:53AM - in reply to Ghgu Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Most fat people I've seen use public transportation. Skinnies like me avoid those putrid-smelling, disease spreading conveyances at all costs.

Kinda runs counter to the OP's hypothesis.
cluelessyank
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 12:11PM - in reply to Ghgu Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It needs to be somewhat cost effective. In big cities where it might cost $20/day to park, spending a few bucks and riding the bus or train doesn't seem so bad. My employer subsidizes my use of public transportation, and I'm using it as a way to help my poor self to save some money.
crazy raisin
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 12:38PM - in reply to photofinish Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

photofinish wrote:

We built this country to go wherever the hell we want (car culture).
Not to ride around with "diversity" and still not getting to where we were headed.
It isn't the government's job to move us from point A to point B.
What a dumb sentiment. The government built every single road you drive on. And it subsidized the original auto industry to get it off the ground, while they were at it.

People who drive cars are just as, if not more, reliant on the government for transportation.
crazy raisin
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 12:41PM - in reply to Walking on the train? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Walking on the train? wrote:


I'm confused. Are you asking about public transportation (trains/subway/etc) or about walking? Because they're very different things.
Not exactly. If you take the subway you might at least have a 1-5 minute walk to the station, even in NYC. If you drive you only have to haul your fat @ss to the garage.



Population density (or lack thereof) is one reason for lack of public trans.
Doesn't explain much though. In LA only 11% of people take public transportation. France has about the same population density as cities east of the Mississippi.
t94bell
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 12:48PM - in reply to Ghgu Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The most developed countries seem to not use public transportation as much compared to other countries. Russia is the obvious outlier. Our great wealth enables us to buy our own cars?
City Planner 420
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 1:47PM - in reply to t94bell Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lot of dumb things on this thread. There is low transit ridership in America because automobile travel and suburban living have been encouraged and heavily subsidized by the government. Federal tax dollars allow cities like phoenix to grow outwards, not upwards. This results in such low population density that public transit is not feasible.

To the poster who said it's not the government's job to get you from point a to b: you're an idiot. Car owners pay only a fraction of the total social costs of automobile travel, the rest of us pick up your tab.
James Madison
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 1:54PM - in reply to City Planner 420 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Public transport users only pay a fraction of their cost.
photofinish
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 1:58PM - in reply to City Planner 420 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I realize that ... however, I maintain that it is not the government's job to move you around. The fact that it has stepped in to do so in many cases doesn't mean that it is right to do so.
the truth no matter what
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 2:07PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Black Gang Members Harrass, Rob, and Beat Up White Women on the Washinton DC Metro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G9metXkBM8Y

you want to ride with those savage??
libs hate the truth
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 2:13PM - in reply to the truth no matter what Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well, mainly because of n*ggers.
more figuring it out each day
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 2:17PM - in reply to the truth no matter what Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Those poor nice white suburban women have absolutely no clue about those savages, they think they are civilized human beings and just like them.. Well they learned the truth real fast..


the truth no matter what wrote:

Black Gang Members Harrass, Rob, and Beat Up White Women on the Washinton DC Metro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G9metXkBM8Y

you want to ride with those savage??
Planet of the Apes
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 2:20PM - in reply to more figuring it out each day Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Exactly why...because it's not safe for white people.
Entitlement Battleground
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 2:30PM - in reply to photofinish Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
We're already far down that road and aren't going back now, so take your PolySci classroom prattle back to your ivory tower with you. What remains in reality is how we, as a citizenry, want our subsidy funds to be spent. Like with corporate welfare versus social safety nets, we clearly prefer to not use public money to help the poor, we want to use it to reward the rich (those who can afford to live in suburbs and own and drive their own cars).

photofinish wrote:

I realize that ... however, I maintain that it is not the government's job to move you around. The fact that it has stepped in to do so in many cases doesn't mean that it is right to do so.
Daniel Shays
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 2:41PM - in reply to crazy raisin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

crazy raisin wrote:

[quote]Walking on the train? wrote:

Doesn't explain much though. In LA only 11% of people take public transportation. France has about the same population density as cities east of the Mississippi.


LA has a large population, but is not densely populated.

LA has 8,000 per square mile
San Francisco has 17,000
NYC: 27,000
Manhattan: 70,000
Big John
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 3:42PM - in reply to the truth no matter what Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

the truth no matter what wrote:

Black Gang Members Harrass, Rob, and Beat Up White Women on the Washinton DC Metro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G9metXkBM8Y

you want to ride with those savage??


Really it's just gotten too expensice. I took Metro downtown this week. It had been a while since I'd ridden. One way fare was $6.75. So basically for me and my family to go downtown on metro it would be $70. I can drive us for $10 or $15.
cluelessyank
RE: Why few Americans use public transport? 12/8/2012 4:28PM - in reply to the truth no matter what Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I used to ride the Metro through Fort Totten. NICE! But I was always smart enough not to be showing a iPod or fancy cell phone. People have no sense.
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