There are two tragedies here:
1) Those children have to grow up without their mother.
2) Those DJs' families have to deal with unemployment because some nut-job in England killed herself.
There are two tragedies here:
1) Those children have to grow up without their mother.
2) Those DJs' families have to deal with unemployment because some nut-job in England killed herself.
it's a stupid idea to pay royals when they aren't even real english. queen lizzys husband is not english period. rather he's a greek-russian half-breed with turkish, semetic, iranian, oriental, and who knows what else in the genes. i can't believe the english are so dumb. they pay for a bunch of part chinks and gooks to parade around and act high and mighty. really idiotic.
why is this the silliest act wrote:
it's a stupid idea to pay royals when they aren't even real english. queen lizzys husband is not english period. rather he's a greek-russian half-breed with turkish, semetic, iranian, oriental, and who knows what else in the genes. i can't believe the english are so dumb. they pay for a bunch of part chinks and gooks to parade around and act high and mighty. really idiotic.
You do know people essentially ignore all your posts these days?
Try a different trolling angle now please - this one has run its course.
Thanks.
Flagpole wrote:
I do not blame those DJs for this.
If it weren't for them, she'd still be alive, so how can you not blame them?
Peace Out wrote:
Flagpole wrote:I do not blame those DJs for this.
If it weren't for them, she'd still be alive, so how can you not blame them?
Actually, there are 1,783 people who interacted with her in a significant way in which she had an unpleasant experience during the course of her life. There were also 5,278 people who interacted with her with a neutral or relatively pleasant experience over this same time period (with some overlap between the groups). Many of the 5,278 people led her to interactions with the 1,783 thereby indirectly causing her to have an unpleasant experience.
Therefore I nominate 6,444 people to blame for this death (5,278 + 1,783 - overlaps).
Please try thinking a bit more clearly. It might do you good.
Oops, now I am going to be held responsible for your death when you can't handle an unpleasant human exchange.
dpmrunner wrote:
UK wrote:A prank among friends is one thing.
If you play a prank on a stranger, you lose control of the message and have no idea what the reaction will be.
I suspected there would be defenders of the DJ's right to be idiots.
I also suspect none of defenders will be from the hospital or the family of the deceased.
^
This. Okay, granted, she had to have been very fragile emotionally to take her life. And true, it does seem like a pretty extreme reaction.
But as said, in dealing with strangers, you don't know if someone is on the verge of suicide and what a person thinks is a harmless joke could cause a lot of pain, sending someone over the edge.
This ^ is absolutely idiotic. Yes, by all means, let's go through life tiptoeing as if on eggshells because you never know if someone that you meet is on the verge of suicide.
Grow up, people. A tragedy, yes. A reason to never pull a prank because "someone might be on the verge of suicide"? You've got to be kidding me!
Let me guess. You are someone who doesn't care about anyone elses but themselves. you guys are seriously disturbed. You don't pull a prank on a stranger. A friend fine. But they didn't even know the poor lady. You don't do this to a stranger. Those dj's are 100% to blame.
Like the other sensible posters here I have a sneaky suspicion that the nurse had pre existing Issues (
wooooow wrote:
Let me guess. You are someone who doesn't care about anyone elses but themselves. you guys are seriously disturbed. You don't pull a prank on a stranger. A friend fine. But they didn't even know the poor lady. You don't do this to a stranger. Those dj's are 100% to blame.
OK, now that I've let you guess you have exposed yourself as a complete moron with your absurd guess.
Sorry, but your simplistic thinking just doesn't cut it. There is a HUGE difference between being purposefully mean to someone and pulling a prank on someone. My apologies if you are incapable to understanding this. Pulling pranks is a time honored tradition throughout the world. Perhaps we should just shut down every activity that could possibly have some impact on someone, somewhere, in some deranged state of mine making a bad decision. In that case, let's all just never get out of bed.
Try this horrible, completely unacceptable prank involving people that the pranksters do not know personally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSqcdQWxgOYor this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuB2OfRACw0or...
Yes, by all means, let's avoid ever doing anything out of the ordinary, funny...with anyone unless we can be 100% sure that every single person involved is in absolutely perfect health and has signed a waiver indicating that they understand exactly what is going on and approve of this activity.
Grow up dude.
Yep...this is a good answer; gets the point across.What if she decided to kill herself because someone offered her orange juice? We can't know what's going on in someone's head. As I said, I'm not a fan of pranks, but the prank they pulled did not warrant a suicide.
UR Kid Ng wrote:
Peace Out wrote:If it weren't for them, she'd still be alive, so how can you not blame them?
Actually, there are 1,783 people who interacted with her in a significant way in which she had an unpleasant experience during the course of her life. There were also 5,278 people who interacted with her with a neutral or relatively pleasant experience over this same time period (with some overlap between the groups). Many of the 5,278 people led her to interactions with the 1,783 thereby indirectly causing her to have an unpleasant experience.
Therefore I nominate 6,444 people to blame for this death (5,278 + 1,783 - overlaps).
Please try thinking a bit more clearly. It might do you good.
Oops, now I am going to be held responsible for your death when you can't handle an unpleasant human exchange.
You lame apology for the DJs doesn;t cut it.
You are free to pull a prank but if things go wrong, you are accountable. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of your actions.
What the heck wrote:
This ^ is absolutely idiotic. Yes, by all means, let's go through life tiptoeing as if on eggshells because you never know if someone that you meet is on the verge of suicide.
Grow up, people. A tragedy, yes. A reason to never pull a prank because "someone might be on the verge of suicide"? You've got to be kidding me!
Please note: friends whose responses you're likely to know, sure, but someone you don't know? More risky.
I wonder if, in a job like this nurse's, there are just so many stresses already that combined with whatever issues she had, this incident sent her over the edge.
It's not so much about walking on eggshells all the time, just being mindful of how we impact others and going with the classic golden rule.
Oh... and no worries--your response will not lead me to suicide. Have a lovely day!
Yes, the driver should have driven normally and she'd still be here.
They were not forced to drive like an Indy car racer, they made a choice.
Why try to lose them as they are going to show up the next day anyways?
Bad call by the driver or whoever may have told him to lose them. The cars behind them didn't crash?
When you are in the public eye, that is the life that comes with it.
She's not dead because of the paparazzi but because of their own choice.
No, it doesn't make her a nut-job but it sure makes you classless for implying it. What do you know about her? That's what I thought.
This I agree with. The camera guys were behind them, but there was NO reason for them to drive at such dangerous speeds to lose them as they weren't being shot at! Bad move by the driver.
In 2009, the same radio station got a 14 year old girl to admit that she had been raped at age 12. The DJ then asked her if she had been sexually active since then.
She's not dead because of the paparazzi but because of their own choice.
You are wrong. Even the newspapers who employ the paparazzi admit that they had stepped over the line, and all the British papers signed a voluntary code of conduct in respect of the royal family, which is as good as an admission by the people responsible that they were at fault.
When you are in the public eye, that is the life that comes with it.
Undoubtedly, however the whys and wherefores of Diana's death are irrelevant, the FACT is that she died due to the predatory behavior of the media, and now a hospital has been pranked into revealing private information about her son's unborn child.
Perhaps the nurse killed herself due to guilty feelings about that, or perhaps she didn't want to face the barrage of international media intrusion that was coming her way. Either way, we'll never know.
As I said, I'm not a fan of pranks, but the prank they pulled did not warrant a suicide.
So now you get to decide what everyone does with their lives? If the nurse felt that her embarrassment over the prank which had been pulled on her warranted her taking her own life, then that is her decision, not yours.
Was she not free to do what she wanted with her life? I think you expect to be able to decide your own fate (insofar as any of us can), why not her?
(My point here Flagpole, in case you didn't get it, is that we all place different values on things - this was her expression of her values, and just because you don't share those values doesn't make her choice less valid.)
GenericID wrote:
As I said, I'm not a fan of pranks, but the prank they pulled did not warrant a suicide.So now you get to decide what everyone does with their lives? If the nurse felt that her embarrassment over the prank which had been pulled on her warranted her taking her own life, then that is her decision, not yours.
Was she not free to do what she wanted with her life? I think you expect to be able to decide your own fate (insofar as any of us can), why not her?
(My point here Flagpole, in case you didn't get it, is that we all place different values on things - this was her expression of her values, and just because you don't share those values doesn't make her choice less valid.)
Wait a minute. Did you really say that? Indeed, she did decide her own fate. And the DJ's in question did not. That really should be the beginning and the end of this ridiculous finger pointing exercise.
There really isn't anything to discuss. Other than the fact that folks like to point fingers and look for someone to blame.
And the DJ's in question did not.
The DJs put her into a position of having compromised her professional ethics and tricked her into disclosing personal information about a patient in her care. Just because you don't consider those things important, it doesn't mean the nurse should be obligated place the same value on them as you do.
Did you really say that?
Yes, I really did. You seem to have me muddled up with someone who is blaming the DJs for the nurse's death, but since you don't seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, I'm not surprised at your confusion.