I live right down the street from here and run past this area all of the time. Nuts!
-Graduated high school as 2-time footlocker finalist
-Brevard College 1 year
-Marines
-Cumberlands 2 years
-No school for a few years
-Cumberlands 1 year
Heard he had another roommate who died a few years back but not sure the circumstances behind that
Sad News
So Creepy wrote:
Exucrunner wrote:i just talked to him about 2 days ago
Consider yourself lucky. You escaped death. He had already killed a man at that point. You talked to a killer.
Most people talk to soldiers everyday.
Eric's a sad case.
I understand he had several disciplinary issues while in high school and at both of his stops in college. Stuff like stealing personal items from teammates, forgery and check writing fraud. He was always given multiple chances because of his talent. I had a chance to recruit/talk to him about coming to school after he "left" Brevard, but soon found the baggage to be something that didn't fit the program. He seemed like a nice, likeable kid. No history that indicated he was violent. If anything, he was just Immature.
I saw him some years later when he was at Cumberland College where he was given a chance to resume his collegiate running at the behest of a former teammate at Brevard College, who was a Coach on Cumberlands staff at the time. It seemed like the story from High School and his previous college stop was repeating itself. I don't think he finished his degree or was consistently academically eligible.
This is a sad story. I feel for the families of everyone who is involved.
It is a sad sad story assuming it is true. I did look up cumberlands because i was wondering how such an accomplished high school runner ends up nowwhere. They do have a coach who lists brevard as one of his colleges actually looks like a decent program.
kleptomania, mental illness, ptsd, being 'outed'.
sadly someone around the guy should have got him help before this happened.
Why was he working for UPS if he was klepto isn't that like a recipe for disaster?
Was the University of Cumberlands a DI school?
Sad case wrote:
Untreated mental illness, perhaps.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/fairfax-police-use-dogs-copter-to-find-suspect-in-roommate-killing/2012/11/30/79b467b2-3b39-11e2-a263-f0ebffed2f15_story.html?tid=pm_local_popKweder’s relatives declined to comment, but a high school friend and former roommate, Christopher Hendrix-Buxton, said he was shocked by Kweder’s arrest.
He described Kweder as an avid runner who was named a Washington Post All-Met athlete at Edison High School in the mid-1990s. Hendrix-Buxton said Kweder served in the Marines and had recently been working for UPS.
Hendrix-Buxton said Kweder had also recently revealed to him a diagnosis of a mental illness.
all these names were big in Virginia back in 96 (Karie, Kweder, Hendrix-Buxton). Was Eric Kweder the guy who wore rec-specs when running or was that Chantilly's Eric Post (also a low 9 minute 2 miler)?
New him from HS days in VA wrote:
It is a sad sad story assuming it is true. I did look up cumberlands because i was wondering how such an accomplished high school runner ends up nowwhere. They do have a coach who lists brevard as one of his colleges actually looks like a decent program.
I think it's fair to assume that it was issues outside of running that led to him not being a more accomplished college athlete. I watched him run several times in HS and felt I was looking at a future sub-4 miler. He had the physical tools, but he was tactically unsound. When I heard he had enrolled at Brevard College, I actually thought it was a good choice given the learning, training and coaching environment for someone who wasn't academically ready for a larger class room setting. Brevard regularly ran a competitive track schedule. I understand he always wanted to run for George Watts at Tennessee, and wasn't able to enroll out of HS.
Cumberland competes at the NAIA Level. Incidentally, Sharif Karie, who Eric competed with in High School ended up at Lindenwood University, also a NAIA school after leaving Arkansas.
Eric Post wore the specs.
It looks like he made some bad choices even when presented with positive options such as brevard, military and cumberland. No way anyone could have seen this coming. It's one thing to mess up your running career and another to end up in the slammer. I'm sure both schools gave him more than a fair chance to be successful he just couldn't do it. Maybe mental illness plays a factor.
I had some rediculous times with Eric never thought he would have done anything like this. Knowing him I think it was probably a disagreement that got physical. I don't consider him a murderer and never will he is a guy who has a temper and sadly let it out and it ended badly. Prayers are with his roomates family and also Eric.
One can be against gun control while simultaneously believing fewer guns would equal fewer murders (like me!). Genuinely competing moral values between people's right to self-defense vs more people dying as a result of too many guns. I just don't dig people who adduce reasons for beliefs when they know that the reasons have nothing to do with the belief.
Like when liberals say they are against the death penalty to because it is not a deterrent (or pro-death penalty people say the like it because it is)! As if an empirical answer to the question would change either side's mind. The emotional tail wags the rational dog.
You should read David Buss's book on violence and murder.
http://www.amazon.com/Murderer-Next-Door-Mind-Designed/dp/0143037056
He used FBI data and it turns out most murders are one-off incidences that involve crimes of passion, contrary to the popular idea of dangerous and repetitive criminals. In that context, guns are far less lethal.
It also turns out women commit more acts of violence against male partners than vice versa. Problem is, when men commit violence, it is far more lethal.
Ugh, I meant far MORE lethal. If someone just gets temporarily angry and reacts without thinking a gun is worse than a bat in terms of mortality. But, as I said, one might think a few extra deaths is a small price to pay for individual's freedom to protect themselves. I think once can argue that one person being denied self-defense is worse than a few extra murders. If we didn't believe that there were other moral values besides utilitarian harm, we would outlaw cars.
And we would all agree on the Trolley Problem:
So men are less violent, but more violent? Whats your point?
Brain wrote:
So men are less violent, but more violent? Whats your point?
The point is we have inaccurate ideas about violence across the board that effects our thinking about policy (not that accurate ideas necessarily would lead to one policy or another, but they might).
Never really said anything about men - was talking about violence vs lethality, cogent to the gun issue.
To get back to topic - I ran with Eric probably 5 days a week during fall of 1997 while I was working at Brevard and running with the team. He was an odd duck.
The rec-specs guy was Eric Post. Bald dude.