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willy k
Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 3:25AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Results are in.
http://www.fukuoka-marathon.com/results/index.php?lang=en&search_by=1&taikai_nth=66

This isn't Trafeh's first marathon started, but I believe it's the first he finished.
Solid debut for Ryan Vail after "missing" NYC and pushing everything back a month, 2:11:45, just 4 seconds behind Trafeh. Trafeh went out much more aggressively, running with the leaders (63:45) and fading. Vail was more conservative, running fairly even splits.
willy k
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 3:31AM - in reply to willy k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Other Americans I see in the results:

Tim Nelson 2:14:09. Not much better than his 2:15 debut at NYC last year, which wasn't good for him. However, he actually ran at that conservative pace the whole way, starting waaay back in 15:45 for 5k. He just passed Scott Overall at the end. Looks like Ryan Bak started with him too, but faded to 2:18.

No Kenyan finishers in the field, surprisingly. Haile Geb dropped out with upper leg cramps. He says he wants to stay in shape and find another marathon to run.
willy k
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 3:31AM - in reply to willy k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sadly, this has become a pattern for Haile.
Darwinian
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 3:32AM - in reply to willy k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Vail's splits look great compared to others
15:30 15:35 15:23 15:30 15:25 15:39 15:45 16:00 6:58
willy k
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 3:41AM - in reply to willy k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
PS (glad someone else is online at this time) - around 32k must have been a popular time to drop out, because in addition to Haile, I do count about 4 Kenyan starters and Canadian Simon Bairu, who all dropped out around there. A little surprising for Bairu, as he went out at Nelson's conservative pace. Not a good day for Schumacher's group.

Vail did have good splits, that's one of the smarter debuts I've seen in recent years. Nelson / Bairu / Trafeh / that guy in the Olympic Trials whose name I can't remember / many other (North) Americans who have debuted in the last couple years have crashed.
Darwinian
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 3:42AM - in reply to willy k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Vail's splits look great compared to others
15:30 15:35 15:23 15:30 15:25 15:39 15:45 16:00 6:58
gt1258
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 3:47AM - in reply to Darwinian Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Vail ran 2:12 at the trials, this was not his debute (not knocking him at all just clarrifying posts).
troof be told
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 5:21AM - in reply to willy k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

willy k wrote:
No Kenyan finishers in the field, surprisingly.


Especially since the winner and the 14th-placer were both from Kenya.
mcmuffins
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 6:46AM - in reply to willy k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

willy k wrote:

Results are in.
http://www.fukuoka-marathon.com/results/index.php?lang=en&search_by=1&taikai_nth=66

This isn't Trafeh's first marathon started, but I believe it's the first he finished.



to the GILLLLLLS
Top Fuel
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 6:49AM - in reply to willy k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Frank Shorter ran 2:10:30 at this same race 3 months after winning gold in 1972. Those guys you speak off got beat by a mile. 2:11 is not world class anymore. Forty years ago sure; not now.
Mrs. M
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 7:25AM - in reply to Top Fuel Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'm curious about the results - looks like 200+ people dropped out....it looked windy, but was it that bad there?
162430
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 7:45AM - in reply to Mrs. M Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It has nothing to do with the wind. They pull runners off the course if they fall below 2:46:00 pace. The qualifying time for the race is 2:42:00.
Mrs. M
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 7:56AM - in reply to 162430 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Aha. Thanks.
Nappy Roots
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 8:20AM - in reply to Mrs. M Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
At some point, race director are gonna start putting some fine/small print in Geb's contract that links his consistent DNF's with his pay. He's probably getting tons of dollars just to show up.
troof be told
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 8:30AM - in reply to mcmuffins Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

mcmuffins wrote:
to the GILLLLLLS


No, it was Coolsaet pacing Vail, not Gillis.
blaznbison24
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 8:53AM - in reply to willy k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
there were several Kenyans in the field and one of them won.
162430
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 10:41AM - in reply to troof be told Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

troof be told wrote:


mcmuffins wrote:
to the GILLLLLLS


No, it was Coolsaet pacing Vail, not Gillis.


Easy-to-understand mistake from mcmuffins. All of those damn Canucks look the same.
Jeff Wigand
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 10:48AM - in reply to Nappy Roots Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Nappy Roots wrote:

At some point, race director are gonna start putting some fine/small print in Geb's contract that links his consistent DNF's with his pay. He's probably getting tons of dollars just to show up.


They already do.
Wow Unbelievable
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 11:17AM - in reply to willy k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The winner is Kenyan. He's just based in Japan.
willy k
RE: Mo Trafeh, Ryan Vail 2:11:4x at Fukuoka 12/2/2012 12:47PM - in reply to Wow Unbelievable Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah, you guys are right, my mistakes. 1) There are two Kenyan finishers, but their "nationality" is listed as Japan since they're based there and I didn't look at the names, and 2) this isn't Ryan Vail's debut, he ran 2:12 at the olympic marathon trials. It was also pretty well-paced though.
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