Brad Hudson and the Hansons.
willy k wrote:
2. There are literally no good marathon coaches in the US.
Alberto has had a few decent results and now one good result. He's not a great marathon coach but a lot of the perception of him as being worse than he is is due to unrealistic expectations among American fans of their marathoners' abilities and hubris on the part of the American athletes themselves about the same abilities.
Missouri proud wrote:
Is that really what you think happened? For me, I think that supreme talent won out. After so many poor results for AlSal I will wait for about a half dozen quality performances strung together before I am a believer.
LOL. Ritz didn't run 2:07 because of Salazar's coaching; Ritz ran 2:07 in spite of Salazar's coaching.
troof be told wrote:
Alberto finally got it right with Ritz's 2:07. Maybe it'll take as long for Jerry as it did for him.
Salazar has had Ritz PR twice this year - 2:09:55 off 3 months training, and then 2:07.
Salazar is the best coach in the US from 1500m - marathon.
There is definitley a measuring bar than needs to be used in comparing coaching. THE QUALITY OF ATHLETE THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH. Let me give you some basics and then start measuring successes.
1 time doesnt make an expert wrote:
Other than Ritz 2008 Olympic Marathon what serious success has Hudson had in coaching the marathon?
Didn't most all of his runners underperformed or DNF'ed in marathons in 2012.
Hansons have 2 big success stories but over 14 yrs and 70+ athletes.
I think Hudson and the Hansons showed they CAN get it right depending on the situation and person, but I wouldn't say they have the event figured out.
Zap, McMillan, Hudson, Hansons, Jerry, Alberto, TUSAM all occassionally have success but more often miss than succeed. The Hudson probably have the best batting average of the lot but then they specialize in the event. But their success rate isn't exactly that impressive, compared to Canova, and Rosa and a few others.
Is there anyone who, at least from an outsider's perspective, seems more suited for the marathon than Nelson?
come clean wrote:
I don't think you are putting as much blame on the athletes that is deserved. Shumacker has had a rough go, but maybe these athletes are just not cut out for the marathon.