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phenominal talent
Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:28PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
baxter has PHENOMINAL talent. to run down cain like it was nothing...simply unreal
thedrinker
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:31PM - in reply to phenominal talent Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Were you watching the same race everyone else was. Cain was closing very hard and give her 200 more meters it would be different. She didn't run the wheels off anyone. That was the most exhausted I've ever Baxter after a finish.
Swimming more than running
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:34PM - in reply to thedrinker Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
She effectively nullified Cain's kick in the last half of the race, opening the 7 second gap around 4K. Without that gap Cain would have out kicked Baxter.
redshift1
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:36PM - in reply to thedrinker Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cain, great race at not her best distance, definitely closing but Baxter took all the heat upfront and held on ... very close
gregorium.
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:45PM - in reply to Swimming more than running Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Wow there seems to be many more Cain/NY fans on these boards.

Listen to how ridiculous you sound!!! If Sarah Baxter had not run faster and opened up a gap THEN Cain MIGHT have won.

Sarah won because she is FASTER and a BETTER xc runner.

Cain can't been Baxter in anything over a mile.Deal with it.
fghrunner
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:46PM - in reply to redshift1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
great race by both. I was very impressed with baxter's tacticts and overall strength, and also by cain's heart at the end with an EXCELLENT last 600m that was completely missed/ignored by the race announcers
The Waterboy
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:46PM - in reply to thedrinker Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

thedrinker wrote:

Were you watching the same race everyone else was. Cain was closing very hard and give her 200 more meters it would be different. She didn't run the wheels off anyone. That was the most exhausted I've ever Baxter after a finish.


I've never understood these comments about "if only the race was X longer he/she would've caught him/her." The whole point is that it's not 200 meters longer. It's a 5K race to see whose the best at 5K. Do we say Yohan Blake would have won the Olympic 100m if it was only 100m longer, or that Zersenay Tadese would have won the 10000m if only it was another 11K longer?
The Waterboy
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:47PM - in reply to The Waterboy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
To see *who's* the best at 5K
fghrunner
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:48PM - in reply to gregorium. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

gregorium. wrote:

Cain can't been Baxter in anything over a mile.Deal with it.


I think cain would easily win at 3k and could even pose a threat in a track 5k
pshhhh
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:50PM - in reply to The Waterboy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yup excuses excuses. Typical New Yorkers
thedrinker
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:54PM - in reply to gregorium. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Don't get me wrong CERA Baxter is definitely better today, but I think Cain is better at XC than most realize. She was runner-up by a few seconds and looking at Baxter's face she was spent by the end. Cain didn't even look that tired.. She simply ran out of time to catch up. I truly thought no one would be within 20 seconds of Baxter today. Shows that Baxter isn't invincible in cross. I can't wait for track. Salazar said Cain is more fit than she was when she ran 4:11.. said she's right where some of his Olympic 1500 qualifiers were when they qualified.
OLYMPIC DREAMS
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 12:55PM - in reply to gregorium. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

gregorium. wrote:

Wow there seems to be many more Cain/NY fans on these boards.

Listen to how ridiculous you sound!!! If Sarah Baxter had not run faster and opened up a gap THEN Cain MIGHT have won.

Sarah won because she is FASTER and a BETTER xc runner.

Cain can't been Baxter in anything over a mile.Deal with it.
They don't give out olympic medals for xc. Mary is looking at the big picture. She gave her best and she lost, now it's time to move it to the track! That being said Baxter is an awesome and I think she can be the future for the USA in the 10k. I'm hopeing we have 2 future olympic medalists with these 2 awesome runners! Baxter killed today!
Fay kicked yo Manny...AGAIN
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 1:00PM - in reply to pshhhh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

pshhhh wrote:

Yup excuses excuses. Typical New Yorkers
Fay Man.......AGAIN....STILL....FOREVER!!!! Now start another thread about how unfair it is or better yet a Saugas Legacy thread!
coach
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 1:10PM - in reply to Fay kicked yo Manny...AGAIN Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
everyone expected Baxter to win and many expected her to blow away the field. Cain showed she's a better XC runner than many thought. They both ran beautifully and we all will be watching these two (Webb vs Ritz?) for the next few years.
worst poster
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 1:49PM - in reply to phenominal talent Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
One of the two runners is considered world class 'right now'.

Its not Baxter.

She may well be someday, but not today.
ExRun
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 1:51PM - in reply to coach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Way to go Sarah B! I was pretty sure Sarah Baxter would win, but I thought it would be by more than 4 seconds. I am surprised that Mary Cain did as well as she did because this is not her event...she could very well win next year, especially if the course is not muddy.
yup, worst poster
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 2:06PM - in reply to worst poster Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

worst poster wrote:

One of the two runners is considered world class 'right now'.

Its not Baxter.


4:11 ain't world class, dip$hit...
what the heck
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 2:08PM - in reply to thedrinker Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

thedrinker wrote:

Don't get me wrong CERA Baxter is definitely better today, but I think Cain is better at XC than most realize. She was runner-up by a few seconds and looking at Baxter's face she was spent by the end. Cain didn't even look that tired.. She simply ran out of time to catch up. I truly thought no one would be within 20 seconds of Baxter today. Shows that Baxter isn't invincible in cross. I can't wait for track. Salazar said Cain is more fit than she was when she ran 4:11.. said she's right where some of his Olympic 1500 qualifiers were when they qualified.



Baxter winning shows that Baxter isn't invincible? Makes no sense
Raptured
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 2:13PM - in reply to what the heck Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
In all fairness, I think Mary had a pretty bad race tactically. She closed the majority of Baxter's lead over the last few hundred meters, ie she had too much left in the tank. If she had worked harder over the 4th K, she may have been able to outkick Sarah for the win at the end.
worst poster
RE: Sarah Baxter just ran the wheels off of 411 1500m runner Mary Cain! 12/1/2012 2:31PM - in reply to yup, worst poster Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There are races where that time would be competitive. It would have won the NCAAs and been what 3rd in London? Could Baxter be competitive right now in a tactical 5000?
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