HEPS Track and Field 2012-13

C/M Runner wrote:

curiousGeorge212 wrote:

Take out Richmond of Columbia as she hasn't competed all year and remove Sorna from either the steeple or 5000m and it becomes a crapshoot.

Thanks for the info about Richmond (I wasn't sure if I had missed her on any results) - I've kept her on there because she is still listed on the roster, but if she doesn't compete this upcoming weekend, then I'll remove her from the listing.

I don't believe Shearer has run outdoors as well....

lagsun wrote:

I don't believe Shearer has run outdoors as well....

She hasn't. She won't.

Can we have a prediction from Shazzuy about throwers this season?

Outdoor Heps schedule is available as a PDF (had a hard time finding it since the schedule link under the championship event is not working)

http://ivyleaguesports.com/championships/track-out/2012-13/2013_OTF_Schedule.pdf

Field and Track wrote:

Can we have a prediction from Shazzuy about throwers this season?

I hope so. If there's going to be an "upset" on the men's or women's side this year, the four throws will probably be a key/critical factor.

HOMEWORK: Everyone figure out where the hell the hammer ring is…. The last time I was at Weaver, I could not find it without some help from some friendly fellow throwers.

My “must watch” events for this year are Men’s disc and Women’s hammer. Men’s disc due to what I think will be a GREAT competition (see below), and Women’s hammer for the WOW factor in watching Ratcliffe shatter records. There is 0 reason to not come watch, as Women’s hammer is the first, and only, event at 10AM on Saturday from the looks of the schedule.

Men’s shot: As always, Mozia of Cornell is the overwhelming favorite. We will see if he can overcome the issues he seemed to have indoors this year. Last year, he threw an outdoor PR at Heps as I recall, so we will see what happens. Harvard takes tons of points in this event like last year. They have four guys (Brode, Liokumovich, Glauser & Brucker) who can all throw 54+, and all PR’d at last year’s outdoor Heps. Look for lots of crimson on the podium here. From there, my outside favorites for points are Brenza of Penn (he has the best chance at knocking out anyone from Harvard), Filiano of Dartmouth, Rushton of Princeton, and Clavette of Brown. Cornell needs the 10 from Mozia, and Princeton will hope he throws poorly again and that Rushton can pick up a point or two.

Women’s shot: Imbessi of Cornell is the favorite, her outdoor performances have not been as solid as her indoor performances so far this year, but look for her to set the standard. Darpolar (Brown) and Piccialo (Penn) could both throw far enough to beat her if they have good days and she has an off day. Look for 50 to win, 47-48 for second, and 44-46 for everything else. The points in women’s shot are actually pretty well spread out. Berg of Dartmouth looking strong, could challenge for a top three finish, as well as Salander of Harvard if she follows suit from indoors and does individual events. A whole slew of ladies in the 44-43 range, any of them could be a factor in the second half of the points here. Cornell, like the men, needs Imbessi’s 10 points to stay in it. Harvard will look to score upwards of 12 points with Salander, Watt and Johnson; this event will be key for them. A big goose-egg for Columbia.

Men’s Disc: HOLY TUESDAY IN ITHACA BATMAN! I was taking another look at the lists tonight, and Mozia breaks off a big one at Ithaca College. Not sure why he competed there since Penn Relays is just around the corner, but whatever works, right? Now number 3 (or tied for 2 depending on the metric conversion) all time in Heps, number 7 in the nation, and crushing his own school record, Mozia threw 59.91 meters, 196’7’’ tonight!! WOW! Ok, all that aside, he is FAR from a lock for the disc title. Mattis of Penn will give him all the fight he can muster. It will be a slug-fest of the finest proportions... I think I might need popcorn. Mattis has been in a bit of a slump lately, and Mozia is not exactly the most consistent thrower, so anything can happen, including an upset by Clavette of Brown. Talk about out of the blue for me. 187’2’’?!?! That looks like a 25 foot increase from last year, and although he has not been able to produce it again, you cannot count him out. PREDICTION: Mozia or Mattis at 60+ meters for the win, with the other right behind. Clavette battling for third with Levine of Yale, last year’s champion, with the last couple spots going to Harvard guys. Cornell hopes Mozia can pick up some much needed 10 points, Princeton hopes he does not.

Women’s Disc: Craker of Brown is my favorite. She is super consistent, and has been for many years now. I was worried a new coach might throw off her game, but there does not seem to be any stopping her. Not too far behind is Brown frosh Darpolar, who, like in the shot, has an outside chance at scoring well. She looks inconsistent, so she will need to bring the a-game for Heps weekend. I was surprised to see Imbessi suddenly in the mix here as well. She picks up some MUCH needed points for Cornell. Watt of Harvard of to a slow start this year. She will need to pick-up the pace to get back in the mix to defend her title, as Buhr of Brown (back after a year off) and Berg of Dartmouth will all be pushing for top spots. While I think Craker is a lock for the win, every other spot will be tightly contested. Brown will look to dominate and take the majority of the points, while Cornell will hope to pick up at least 6, and Harvard hopes Watt can bring in 6 or more as well. Another blank for Columbia in my opinion. Look for at least 150 feet to even place, 165+ to seal the win.

Men’s Hammer: This has been a tough one to nail down. With slow starts from some usual powerhouses, and a surprising early leader, this one is a toughie. Servino of Dartmouth looks really consistent at low 190’s, but Glauser of Harvard has thrown nearly 200 feet, and Fiedler of Cornell has come close to that as well. Glauser had a slow start, but seems to be picking up steam as the season rolls, and if he has another performance similar to indoor Heps, look for a big throw at outdoors. If not, look for Servino to win. A whole slew of guys in the mid to low 180’s, look for at least high 170’s to score. Team points in this one are going to be a BIG factor. Fiedler could pick up some major points if he throws well and others do not, and Cornell has two guys at numbers 7 and 8; Mozia and Rhodes. Mozia sneaked in last year and grabbed some points in the hammer he was not expected to get, so it could happen again, while Rhodes has struggled with the hammer in comparison to his indoor season and the weight. Outside shot at lots of points (like 12 or 14), but more likely would 6 for Cornell. 0 for Princeton.

Women’s Hammer: WOOO RATCLIFFE! From what many coaches were saying at indoor Heps, this was where she was REALLY going to shine, and I think we might be able to see her blaze into Heps history. Easy lock for the win in my opinion, I am hoping for 230 feet! Craker has been pushing hard, but I just don’t see her getting that far with the time left, but a solid bet for second. Ekechukwu of Harvard (2013 weight champ) will look to try and score some more points for her team, but will be hard-pressed to catch Craker. Columbia picks up their first points in the throws from Okwara, with the final couple spots being battled for in the mid to upper 160’s. Cornell’s first gap in scoring, Columbia picks up 4, Harvard 6 or 7.

Men’s Jav: Well, not a ton happening here this year. I don’t see Sullivan of Harvard anywhere, and Robbins’ (Cornell) closest comp so far is 15 feet back in Ingram of Penn. Mid 190’s to score, over 200 for the top places, and 220 to lock the win. Another solid 10 points for Cornell (assuming Robbins is throwing, only one mark this season), with Princeton possibly picking up some much needed points (3-4). *yawn*

Women’s Jav: This one will be MUCH closer than the men. If everyone on the list competes, there will be three separate Heps champs in one event. Penn starting to flex some muscle here, with 4 of the top 7 spots, 3 of which are freshmen. Cornell will again look to score a good chunk of points with Imbessi, Dombrowski and Reid. Harvard also has a stake here, with 2011 champion Meyer bringing a possible threat. 2012 champ Al-Hassan of Brown looks to be struggling so far this year, but Jav can surprise even the most wizened of coaches. No clear favorite for me, as Jav can be a fickle mistress, but I am going to say the list as it stands now, is not the clearest picture of what is likely. I really think we will see a veteran as the champ (Al-Hassan, Meyer or Imbessi), with a mish-mash for the remaining spots. 155 to win, low 150’s from the other champs, and the last couple spots rounded out in the mid to low 140’s. Cornell does not score as many as they hope (6-10), Harvard hoping for 6-10, and Columbia, unluckily, another 0 point event. On proof-read (yeah, I proof this crap), does anyone know about Salander of Harvard and the Jav? I only see the one time throwing it in a multi this year, and am wondering if that was an off day since she DNF’d elsewhere. That could be a big upset factor for Harvard.

Wow - congrats to Mozia! That is some heave. Curious - in high school, was he more of a shot or discus guy?

As for the throwing area - from my understanding, it is somewhat near the XC course on the opposite side of the river (I do wish it was closer).

http://www.goprincetontigers.com/fls/10600/ftp.xosn.com/Throwingarea.html?DB_OEM_ID=10600

Hopefully I can make it out there to the throwing area this year. I remember having fun last year running back and forth between Penn's track and their new throwing area to try to catch some of the men's hammer.

Hey shazzguy - Brett Hoover of Hepstrack likes your throwing write-up and really appreciates your throwing knowledge. Would you be willing to allow Brett to use those write-ups above in the Heps previews for next week, crediting your real name for it? Feel free to email me. Thanks.

C/M Runner wrote:

Wow - congrats to Mozia! That is some heave. Curious - in high school, was he more of a shot or discus guy?

Though he did very well in the high school shot, I think Mozia was more probably considered a discus guy. (Folks who followed his HS throwing more closely, *please* correct me if I'm off.)

The thing is that you have two seasons to SP and only one season to DT, so you're likely to hear more (total) about the SP for someone who's excellent at both. Anyway, to the extent I knew of his HS work, it was more at the discus end.

He loved the discus but had more success at the shot. He was high 170s to low 180s discus thrower with a 187 PR. He made steady and more consistent improvements in the shot. Nothing in his high school technique or resume would suggest a 197 foot throw with the 2K at this point in his college career. This is a tribute to a hard working kid and steady effective coaching. I think he is likely in the top 3 or 5 three-throws events athletes in the country at this point. 196 discus, 65 shot and 181 hammer. What's next, a 200 foot javelin throw :-) I don't think there are many who have these credentials in the NCAA. Not an easy feat to pull off. very impressive accomplishment especially when you consider that he's also an engineering student at Cornell and all the class time that entails.

lovetothrowlong wrote:

He loved the discus but had more success at the shot. He was high 170s to low 180s discus thrower with a 187 PR. He made steady and more consistent improvements in the shot. Nothing in his high school technique or resume would suggest a 197 foot throw with the 2K at this point in his college career. This is a tribute to a hard working kid and steady effective coaching. I think he is likely in the top 3 or 5 three-throws events athletes in the country at this point. 196 discus, 65 shot and 181 hammer. What's next, a 200 foot javelin throw :-) I don't think there are many who have these credentials in the NCAA. Not an easy feat to pull off. very impressive accomplishment especially when you consider that he's also an engineering student at Cornell and all the class time that entails.

Thanks for filling in more of the gaps in my knowledge, lttl!

And thanks to shazzuy for the great summary. I know that sometimes people put a lot of time and effort into a (knowledgeable) post, and then wonder if anyone got anything at all from it. Shazz, I can tell you that people get a *lot* from yours, and appreciate them--it helps a lot to get a capsule of what/whom to look for in a particular event.

I hope Cornell's jav guy is okay. I love to watch long throws.

Anyone know who's injured in the league? Some athletes are missing a lot of meets.

Unfortunately, Lauren Waterbury (Brown sprints) is out, recovering from a foot injury...

Penn Relays are underway. Entries/results:

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/schedule.aspx

(just click on the name of the event/section).

Let's see so far: women's 400H, Megan Krumpoch (D) 1:00.49, Ryan Woolley (Cor) 1:01.14, Susan Rodriguez (Col) 1:01.91; women's 4x1, Penn 46.87; DMR, Columbia 11:07.68, Princeton 11:10.13; women's Heps 4x4 Cornell 3:43.72, Princeton 3:49.58, Dartmouth 3:49.81.

Cornell came up with another win on Thursday night: in the championship college women's 3,000m R. Sorna was first with a 9:20. (In the championship college 5,000 K. Kellner was second at 16:10.)

Actually, the Big Red also had some wins in minor sections of other events: in the "college" section of the men's college steeplechase, T. Brinkofski and C. Herr went 1-2 at 9:09 and 9:10; and in the women's Eastern section of the college shot put, V. Imbesi put 14.89m (just shy of 49ft) FTW.

Biggest Ivy news from Thursday may have been what *didn't* happen: in the championship college hammer throw, Julia Ratcliffe had three fouls and out!

Stephen Mozia wins college SP at Penn, finally gets Cornell outdoor record: 19.20 (an even 63ft). Igor Liokumovich wins Eastern SP at 17.19.

Princeton will be in the 4x400 CoA final later today - they dominated the Heps 4x400 with 3:07.99, which was the 7th fastest time of the day. Hopkins ran a 46.6 to start off, followed by Daniel McCord, Russell Dinkins, and Austin Hollimon. They opted not to do a loaded DMR.

Live TV coverage on NBC from 1 to 3pm today.

16:20.35 for Yale in the 4xMile at Penn Relays today.

Tiger's 4x400 improved to 3:06.26 in the CoA Final.