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BGuyJMilleniumXIIl
Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 4:55PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Or worse, be fired. She has made enemies on both sides of the fence.
Breathless Melodrama
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 4:58PM - in reply to BGuyJMilleniumXIIl Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Will people stop posting stupid things on Letsrun?

The answer to this question and yours are the same.
grandma
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 4:59PM - in reply to BGuyJMilleniumXIIl Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
She looked absolutely terrible on tv today. She could barely speak in complete sentences at one point. I would imagine she will stay, but is seriously considering resigning.
6packjack
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 5:01PM - in reply to Breathless Melodrama Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Breathless Melodrama wrote:

Will people stop posting stupid things on Letsrun?



I doubt it.
necky
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 5:03PM - in reply to BGuyJMilleniumXIIl Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Should have taken the USATF job.
BGuyJMilleniumXIIl
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 5:07PM - in reply to Breathless Melodrama Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
just die
Jon Ulm
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 5:10PM - in reply to BGuyJMilleniumXIIl Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Nyet. She, through no fault of her own, got caught in circumstances beyond her control. Ms. Wittenberg made it perfectly clear, it was the mayor's decision that all systems were go as of yesterday. She properly made a valiant effort to get the thing going. She has my support.
Breathless Melodrama
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 5:18PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

BGuyJMilleniumXIIl wrote:

would you shut the Fvck up? hows that for stupid


Very. You did not disappoint.

And I am not the same Breathless Melodrama who posted the stuff about your mother, but I have to say I'm in agreement with his overall stance.

Bloomberg is the one who should really get the ass-reaming here, not Wittenberg.
BGuyJMilleniumXIIl
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 5:31PM - in reply to Breathless Melodrama Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
okay, will you please die too? i promise, your family will only care that you're gone for a week and 3 days after the funeral, and then life is back to normah
bangalangadanga
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 7:01PM - in reply to BGuyJMilleniumXIIl Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
bj guy, have you broken 3:30 yet, half mile or marathon?
Wow Unbelievable
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 7:07PM - in reply to bangalangadanga Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I honestly don't think Wittenberg has anything to apologize for. I can't say the same about a lot of letrrun posters. Wittenberg maintained her dignity.
The hysteria over this has been something very sad to see, as has the inaccurate reporting by the media. Almost EVERYONE I saw on cable made it sound like runners were going to go right through the stricken neighborhoods of Staten Island, which are in fact on the other side of the island, nowhere near the Verrazano. That's just one example.
Fastest Eddie
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 7:18PM - in reply to Wow Unbelievable Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hey ... I think Mary Wittenberg deserves a raise. I just saw the salaries NYRR received for 2009 (below). I think she ought to get a 25% Bonus for this year having to handle the non-Marathon.

It's only fair.

Key Officers / Staff Compensation:

Mary Wittenberg President $ 476,046 + Other Comp. $30,797
Patrick McNamara, VP Finance 168,175 + 8,890
Anne Crandall, VP Marketing 315,729 + 18,063
Peter Ciaccia, VP Events (??) 248,289 + 10,097
Robert Laufer, VP Legal 199,216 + 8,053
Susan Cutler, VP Creative 156,462 + 18,859
Cliff Sperber, VP Youth Services 177,071 + 8,224
and the list goes on & on & on .....
Mary Wittenberg your fired !
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 8:40PM - in reply to Jon Ulm Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Jon Ulm wrote:

Nyet. She, through no fault of her own, got caught in circumstances beyond her control. Ms. Wittenberg made it perfectly clear, it was the mayor's decision that all systems were go as of yesterday. She properly made a valiant effort to get the thing going. She has my support.

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Mary Wittenberg failed as the CEO. The buck stops with her , not the mayor.
She representing the NYRR face has to keep the club and the event in good standing with the public. She failed to understand the public backlash and understand the sensitivity around holding the marathon.
CEO's are paid to make hard decisions. She allowed the runners to come from all over the world without mention of risk the event may not be held. She had no back plan.
The board she ask for her resignation.
Whoopsies
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/2/2012 9:38PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It's actually impressive how badly NYRR and the city screwed this up. Canceling the marathon Tuesday would have made sense. Saying "We're not sure" all week and then miraculously saying "Somehow we can go ahead" on Friday might have been more palatable. They managed to do the opposite of both and have truly pissed EVERYONE off.
they hired a smart crewberg
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/3/2012 1:00AM - in reply to BGuyJMilleniumXIIl Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Mary's crew saved NY Marathon one million dollars by using the wording "will donate 26 bucks per runner up to one million dollars" to the relief effort.
No race
No runners
No need to give.
Firefly
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/7/2012 1:13PM - in reply to Whoopsies Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Some people lost their lives in this storm. One mother lost both her sons who were swept from their arms. Some people lost all their possessions. With that perspective, "pissed off" sounds pretty good to me.
scapegoat idiot
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/7/2012 1:35PM - in reply to Firefly Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
that is too bad for those people. the marathon did not have anything to do with it
just a coach
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/7/2012 1:40PM - in reply to Firefly Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This situation falls on the mayor. He should have announced Tuesday morning that the event was cancelled due to the obvious devastation throughout the city, and with the uncertainty of how the week would unfold and what the strain would be on the city's first responders.
This event was cancelled because of valid push back from the police and fire departments. They were working extended emergency shifts, many had been personally affected and couldn't even tend to their own homes and families. They saw people freezing without gas for their generators , when they knew huge supplies of gas would go to the marathon generators in Central Park. In the midst of dealing with looting, pulling bodies out of flooded homes, and working on adrenaline, they were not about to go work an all day recreational event spread over 26 miles.
scapegoat idiot
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/7/2012 2:26PM - in reply to just a coach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No,Mary Wittenberg should have cancelled it in the first place. Her greed and lack of back up plan caused this situation. She should have cancelled it the morning after the storm hit and told everyone that entered she was sorry but you could have free entry into next year's race. Instead it caused a huge division in the city and backlash against runners everywhere. That is why she needs to resign.
agip
RE: Will Mary Wittenberg Resign? 11/7/2012 2:31PM - in reply to scapegoat idiot Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

scapegoat idiot wrote:

No,Mary Wittenberg should have cancelled it in the first place. Her greed and lack of back up plan caused this situation. She should have cancelled it the morning after the storm hit and told everyone that entered she was sorry but you could have free entry into next year's race. Instead it caused a huge division in the city and backlash against runners everywhere. That is why she needs to resign.


let's say you are right - that she should have had the foresight to know that the race was inappropriate and cancelled it on Wed instead of Friday, against the orders of the mayor.

But she didn't. Why is that 2 day gap a fireable offense?

After building the NYRR into the most powerful running org in the nation, two days of bumbling does not equal a firable offense.
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