Just a thought. I know that Florida state and Oklahoma state do (both NCAA runner ups from the last two years) but I am wondering if it appears to be critical to success?
Just a thought. I know that Florida state and Oklahoma state do (both NCAA runner ups from the last two years) but I am wondering if it appears to be critical to success?
Nope not all, but it makes sense that OSU and FSU would because they're in the south and it would be awful running in the middle of the afternoon with the heat this time of year.
No. But all require you to run in the morning to double
ifyouthinkso wrote:
No. But all require you to run in the morning to double
not true.
The morning bike commute is more enjoyable when the Lady Badgers take up the lane.
Elites are not in college.
College runners atre student-athletes.
Definitely not all. A lot of teams have guys do morning runs on their own just for mileage
I've always felt that it makes more sense to run in the morning. Most races have morning starts, so it makes sense to be on that schedule. Sure you probably have class at 10am, but running at 7am is closer than running at 4pm. Also, if your Friday workout ends at 6pm, that gives you 18 hours to recover. If your Friday workout ends at 9am, you have 25 hours to recover.
Gators 163 Olympic Medals wrote:
Elites are not in college.
College runners atre student-athletes.
He said elite NCAA teams. It's relative.
NAU has afternoon practice... or at least they did back in the day when I was there.
vin's Cardinal used to have morning workouts every Monday, first interval at 7:30 on the golf course. morning grumpiness was tempered when the runners realized this was the exact time and day of Nationals (always held on a Monday, usually midmorning Central time). very smart.
No Way wrote:
I've always felt that it makes more sense to run in the morning. Most races have morning starts, so it makes sense to be on that schedule. Sure you probably have class at 10am, but running at 7am is closer than running at 4pm. Also, if your Friday workout ends at 6pm, that gives you 18 hours to recover. If your Friday workout ends at 9am, you have 25 hours to recover.
Usually you're up for at least 3 hours before an important race. That's nothing like waking up and running
What do you consider early morning? My school's team has 8 AM practice. D1 but not "elite."
ASU practices at 6am due to the heat in the fall. Maybe they don't anymore.
Arizona practiced in the afternoon. Tucson is not as hot though.
icwhatudidthere wrote:
ifyouthinkso wrote:
No. But all require you to run in the morning to double
not true.
Go call all of the elite teams coaches, there are probably only 10 of them in the nation at most. I would bet all of them have their guys running doubles a couple times a week.
Gators 163 Olympic Medals wrote:
Elites are not in college.
College runners atre student-athletes.
You can be both "elite" and a "student-athlete". You can not be "professional" and a "student-athlete". I think you may have confused the meaning of elite with professional.
Not All Require it. Just because one might run in the morning doesn't mean that that person would be good. To be good it's about how much balls you got when it comes down to the race. So it doesn't matter if you practice in the morning or afternoon.
ifyouthinkso wrote:
No. But all require you to run in the morning to double
icwhatudidthere wrote:
not true.
I looked into team on the men's side. I am defining elite as a top 10 finish in 3 of the last 5 years. Those teams are Wisc., Oregon, Stanford, Alabama, Iona, N. Ariz, Ok St, and Colorado.
I would find it hard to believe that the coaches for these teams wouldn't want their guys doing at least a small morning run a couple times a week.
Colorado historically hasn't pushed doubles. Read RWTB Goucher did 96 miles on singles the year he won NC XC.
The focus of mileage should be measured against the number of run you do and the pace. 96 on 7 beats 110 on 12.
The Arizona coach doesn't have a high mileage rep. 85 @ 6:30. Check recent flo track videos.
The recent literature suggest their is not lactate acid clearing benefit of doing a warm down or an AM shake out run. Check last weeks LRC article on Lactic Acid fallacies.
[quote]JerseyTrash wrote:
"Colorado historically hasn't pushed doubles. Read RWTB Goucher did 96 miles on singles the year he won NC XC.
The focus of mileage should be measured against the number of run you do and the pace. 96 on 7 beats 110 on 12."
110 on 12 runs can be better than 96 on 7. Some colorado guys were getting in doubles just not most of them, probably because of schoolwork and were already getting in plenty of volume on one run at altitude.
Arkansas at their best used to have scheduled doubles and probably a lot of the top guys at these schools do them also. There are just more things to worry about in college. Also some of the college guys haven't done that high of mileage yet so it can be a little risky, some coaches purposely hold athletes back. It is better to do too little than too much. Personally I think more coaches should implement doubles into the program, even if it just an easy 4 miles and some drills.