Go to South Africa and win Comrades & Two Oceans, that will get you $33K & $27K.
Go to South Africa and win Comrades & Two Oceans, that will get you $33K & $27K.
2013 Two Oceans is this weekend. About 35 miles with a couple of big hills in the last 10 miles.
What would be a good performance for a 2:40 marathoner? 2:20?
someone I know is running it wrote:
2013 Two Oceans is this weekend. About 35 miles with a couple of big hills in the last 10 miles.
What would be a good performance for a 2:40 marathoner? 2:20?
Wardian, a 2:20-ish marathoner, ran 3:16 there. So a 2:40 might translate to a 3:40??
Correction, Wardian is a 2:17 marathoner. Would you call Geb a 2:10 guy?
Funny how you fast-forward a few years and you wonder why any company would even be sponsoring Dom Grossman. He came into a sport where there werent many at the top, he snuck into the top and won a couple on his home turf and since then he has been the first to call himself a professional athlete, but by no standards he is not.
Grossman is not one of the top ultra runners. There are a small number of dominant guys and then a large number of guys like this behind them, but not close.[/quote]
Sage, how is Anton Krupicka still living on sponsorships? He's not even a runner anymore.Do you have any insight into how sponsorships like his work? Read more: http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6829344#ixzz4V3xldBp9
S. Canaday wrote:
Seems like a troll kind of post but I'll give you some "Sage" advice:
Run high mileage for another couple of years and then do a marathon on the road and see where you stand. Are you much better at xc compared to track? Cross country running ability is closer to these trail races but then it depends on the course (and there is some huge variation in that with these ultra or mountain races).
As far as the career/living off running goes - you got me there! Crap, I'm the one who needs advice on that. I think some guys like Anton Krupicka are sponsored at a level where they can just travel around and run (check out his blog "Riding the Wind" all he does is drive round and hit up '14ers) I've got to work at least part time to make ends meet...going into the office pretty soon now actually - And I don't have a footwear or apparel sponsor yet (Not expecting anything close to the support I had at Hansons-Brooks but then again I was a very average marathon runner at the trials). So that is even after some shameless self promotion across multiple social media outlets. It's not all about speed and how many YouTube videos you upload. So plan to work at least part-time and don't think things like race entry fees, travel and lodging will be covered.
Good luck!
Canaday has Hoka One One, Ultra wins, his YouTube channel and training books now.
Like Anton, I'd bet he doesn't have to work at a shoe store anymore either.
Anton's probably more popular now than when he was winning a lot of races.
Anybody remember when he used to post here around 2005? (When he was Tony)
Zach Miller (NIKE Trail) provided great insight into this world-
1. His Nike contract provides product, travel stipend, and performance bonuses, but no salary. Basically gives him the opportunity to race and get out there, get exposure.
2. When he performs well, he is able to land some prize money, but more importantly he attracts the attention of race directors around the world and he can pick and choose his races for the next season.
3. Now that he is established, he is flown out to the race(s) of his choice, provided per diem, hotel, transportation, appearance fee, and prize money if he podiums.
4. He cleared close to $30k in 2016. TNF 50 makes up 30% of that.
Why? How?
Climbing>running....... wrote:
Anton's probably more popular now than when he was winning a lot of races.
He only raced three ultras in 2016. That probably hurt his earning potential, although he ran well when it counted for TNF 50. So $10k at TNF 50 and maybe Nike did prize money matching. Now we're at $20k. Off the podium at UTMB, but maybe a Nike bonus for leading most of the race.His other race was maybe worth a few thousand.Not quite 30k, but is this including his pay working on Pikes Peak then?The guys making more money in ultra running are guys racing more frequently while getting a stipend/salary from their sponsor. Either that, or they are like Jurek and have book deals and speaking engagements.
khow wrote:
Zach Miller (NIKE Trail) provided great insight into this world-
1. His Nike contract provides product, travel stipend, and performance bonuses, but no salary. Basically gives him the opportunity to race and get out there, get exposure.
2. When he performs well, he is able to land some prize money, but more importantly he attracts the attention of race directors around the world and he can pick and choose his races for the next season.
3. Now that he is established, he is flown out to the race(s) of his choice, provided per diem, hotel, transportation, appearance fee, and prize money if he podiums.
4. He cleared close to $30k in 2016. TNF 50 makes up 30% of that.
you are missing his races.
He ran TNF, Madeira Island, UTMB, and Carrera Alto Sil.
Uh? wrote:
Why? How?
Climbing>running....... wrote:Anton's probably more popular now than when he was winning a lot of races.
Crossover appeal.
Climbers
hikers
ultra runners
mountain bikers
outdoor enthusiasts
Like Killian, he isn't just popular for his running. I would say there is MORE interest in the mountain climbing than there is in the running.
Here is your answer. 4 women in top ten with the overall winner being female. If there was real money in ultra running I can assure you those results would be much different.
Forgot to mention the above results are for the USATF 100k trail national championship - $4000 TOTAL purse.
dfsasdafdsfa wrote:
It depends. Can you stomach 800 kcal/hr while listening to NPR podcasts on your iPod?
That's 800,000 calories/hour, bud. I know it's fun to roast on ultrarunners, but learn the definition of words before using them in a sentence.
Wow.
That is embarrassing. A female won a USATF Championship out-right!?
There is no competition or interest in the USA over 100km. None. This would never happen from 50m-50 miles.
khow wrote:
Wow.
That is embarrassing. A female won a USATF Championship out-right!?
There is no competition or interest in the USA over 100km. None. This would never happen from 50m-50 miles.
At least two of the top guys went off course . That's not to say they would have won but it hasn't been mentioned in a couple articles I read.
The other problem is that TNF 50 was less than a month ago and even that race is at the end of the season for a lot of runners. Unlike 5k or 10k, the top athletes can't run every ultra out there. If there is an offseason in ultra running, this is it.
On the other hand, because of the above, that opens it up for MORE runners to get recognition that wouldn't otherwise. Maybe some of you posters should be out there raking in some of that EASY money.
Oh really now wrote:
Canaday has Hoka One One, Ultra wins, his YouTube channel and training books now.
Like Anton, I'd bet he doesn't have to work at a shoe store anymore either.
Does Sage still have Hoka? I thought he got dropped. Didn't he just post he has no shoe/apparel sponsor right now?
You are going to have to do a LOT of self promotion. I mean you will have to exhaust every form of social media and be ready to w hore yourself out to any and all products that might give you free gear.
It's not like you can just run and perform well and these companies are going to start calling you offering you money. You need to be able to show them you have x number of twitter followers, you have big numbers following you on instagram and youtube.
It's not just about the running.