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ventolin^3
3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 1:19PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
wow

he couda gone mid-3'27 off hard pace !!!
Pre is my Favorite
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 1:25PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
That's ridiculous. 53.85 last lap?
Shoebacca
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 1:35PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Impressive. He should go for a WR if he wasn't already trying.
bangalangadanga
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 1:36PM - in reply to Shoebacca Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
yep, we need a billed world record attempt. make the whole meet about it.
ventolin^3
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 1:36PM - in reply to Pre is my Favorite Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
he actually started his sprint before the bell, maybe 20 - 30m ( have to recheck vid )

quite honestly it looked a mid-3'30 clocking at the bell & even middle of stretch-drive

he moves so deceptively quickly...
52.43
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 3:10PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not to sound like Clifford Calvin, but I though 3:29 washis ceiling. This is getting interesting!
MATTY ICE
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 3:13PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
ventolin^3
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 3:20PM - in reply to 52.43 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

52.43 wrote:Not to sound like Clifford Calvin, but I though 3:29 washis ceiling. This is getting interesting!


leave out morons

he ran that high-3'29 off a derisory pace with a stumble in stretch

he ran 3'30 in rieti last year with suicidal start from wabbit & little drafting

he already was in mid-3'28 shape in a perfect race from last year

his "ceiling", has moved to high, maybe mid-3'27 currently

a 58s 2nd lap looked to have destroyed anything <3'30
might be wejo
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 3:35PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The rabbit hit 400 in 53.xx, not sure where Kiprop was.
Mrr82
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 3:41PM - in reply to Pre is my Favorite Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Pre is my Favorite wrote:

That's ridiculous. 53.85 last lap?


That's not ridiculous. One should close faster on the last lap, and if you're average in teh 56's, 53.85 means you were going at a pretty good pace. This isn't a 4 flat miler closing in 53.85, he's a guy running only 3 second pace off of that. It does mean he probbly could have gone a tiny bit faster, but you should close a bit faster than your first 1100 pace if you went out right.
Meandeck Tendrils
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 3:49PM - in reply to Mrr82 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
so he went,

55
1:53 (58)
2:52 (59)
3:28 (36)????
ventolin^3
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 4:01PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
the only guy in the race he mighta any marginal fear of was nixon, who also has gone 3'29

however, that move 20 - 30m from bell tells me he fears no one now

they might even "team" the 1500, with each leading for a lap, with nixon taking it to the bell in hopefully ~ 2'34

they can race the last lap & sweep the medals
ventolin^3
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 4:05PM - in reply to Mrr82 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Mrr82 wrote:That's not ridiculous. One should close faster on the last lap, and if you're average in teh 56's, 53.85 means you were going at a pretty good pace. This isn't a 4 flat miler closing in 53.85, he's a guy running only 3 second pace off of that. It does mean he probbly could have gone a tiny bit faster, but you should close a bit faster than your first 1100 pace if you went out right.


not true

i'm pretty sure komen went ~ 56 in his 3'29.4

these guys need to be going low-2'32 at bell to stand chance of even pace last lap, but the pacers can't take them there that fast
Pre is my Favorite
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 4:06PM - in reply to Mrr82 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I didn't say his last lap was ridiculous, I said the time was. I'm trying to figure out what his last lap actually was.
ventolin^3
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 4:08PM - in reply to Meandeck Tendrils Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Meandeck Tendrils wrote:so he went,

55
1:53 (58)
2:52 (59)
3:28 (36)????


official leader splits

53.69
1:52.23
2:49.43
3:28.89!!

last 300 was 39.45
ventolin^3
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 4:35PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
moves from 20th to 5th all-time

probably where he shouda been 1y+ ago

suppose, better late than never...
ventolin^3
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 4:43PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
get another gold & he really needs to target noah's 3'28.12 as late-season target

( albeit noah's 3'43.4 is worth more like ~ 3'26.7

& maybe couda got even the 3'26.00wr in rieti '99 if he'd run the 1500 that day )

morceli's 3'27.37 looks target for next year...
ventolin^3
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 5:11PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
confirms somewhat lines of fit i've had for him this year & i did think 3'27 was eminently possible

some prelims, based on somewhat on shitty 1'43.1s where he was proverbial mile behind wabbit at bell - shouda gone sub-1'43 if he'd followed closer

47.0 / 1'42.8 -> 2'12.04 , 3'27.71

47.0 / 1'42.7 -> 2'11.88 , 3'27.36

47.1 / 1'42.8 -> 2'11.96 , 3'27.37

47.1 / 1'42.7 -> 2'11.80 , 3'27.02

forget the 1500 - he shouda get those sometime in the near future & usurp morceli's 3rd on list, but i don't see 3'25.99 ever

however, he has a realistic chance of stealing noah's 1kwr, which is piss-weak

i really think it's worth pursuing regularly, as it's only wr he can dream off
Supragraf
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 5:12PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I was in Monaco tonight and it really was a jog to the bell. Asbel looked so incredibly relaxed I have no doubt that he could have went 3:27 low off a faster pace. The rabbit got a little too far ahead and wasn't much use for drafting. Robby Andrews looked absolutely atrocious.
Richard Evans
RE: 3'28.88 Asbel off a Jog to bell !!! 7/20/2012 5:43PM - in reply to Supragraf Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Kiprop's 500m portion splits

500 1:09.4h
1000 2:21.6h (1:12.2h)
1500 3:28.88 (1:07.2h)

Last 500 / 400 / 300 / 200
1:07.2h / 53.43 / 39.45 / 26.1h
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