mikeyxc
How fast can I go if I actually fully train? 6/30/2012 2:25PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I am in high school and just physically matured during my sophomore year. Now I am going to be a junior and have never actually put in the mileage over the summer (or winter) to have a good season. This past track season I did nothing over the winter (basically I skipped the aerobic phase of training) and came to track practice in march and ended up running a 4:50 1600m and 2:06 800m.

This summer I have learned not to be a bum over the summer/winter and have been training at about 40mile weeks here in june and am planning on going up to 80-90 mile weeks in august (with doubles).

However, I want to know just how fast I will be able to go this cross country season (5k races, i'm a junior in highschool) because I simply have no idea, as I have never trained seriously in the offseason.
Just Another Runner
RE: How fast can I go if I actually fully train? 6/30/2012 2:53PM - in reply to mikeyxc Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If you want to have a good season and high school career and NOT burn out real quick, DO NOT do 80-90 miles a week. That is college level training. You are in high school, stick to CONSTANT 50 mpw and you will be fine. I know a kid who never went above 50 miles a week and ran the 3200m sub-9mins, went 15:05, 4:08, and 1:53.
Yams
RE: How fast can I go if I actually fully train? 6/30/2012 2:54PM - in reply to mikeyxc Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
bump
ggg
RE: How fast can I go if I actually fully train? 6/30/2012 2:56PM - in reply to mikeyxc Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
putting in this kind of mileage, I'd say 1:50 and 4:10
next spring. Of course, the trick is to avoid injuries
when increasing mileage by this much.
ukathleticscoach
RE: How fast can I go if I actually fully train? 6/30/2012 3:29PM - in reply to ggg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ggg wrote:

putting in this kind of mileage, I'd say 1:50 and 4:10
next spring. Of course, the trick is to avoid injuries
when increasing mileage by this much.


Yeah, adding miles will turn every single 2:06 runner into a 1:50 man
mikeyxc
RE: How fast can I go if I actually fully train? 6/30/2012 3:30PM - in reply to Just Another Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Is it ok in high school to do 70-80 miles/week doing them in doubles? or is that still too much?
thfghfgh
RE: How fast can I go if I actually fully train? 6/30/2012 10:45PM - in reply to mikeyxc Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
bernie montoya ran a 4:01 and said he was doing 60 mile weeks, 1 70 mile week.
J Dawg
RE: How fast can I go if I actually fully train? 7/3/2012 7:51PM - in reply to thfghfgh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well as a good rule of thumb you should only increase your mileage by 10% each week, during the aerobic phase. This means only easy running, and on occasion you should take a week of rest every couple of weeks by dropping the mileage a little bit. And once you're done with the aerobic phase, which is probably just another 6-8 weeks for you, you should not increase your mileage any further, but instead keep it around the same or decrease it a little bit as you increase the intensity of your training. If you"re at 40mpw right now, a sample 8 week plan for you would be 40-44-48-53-40-53-57-60, all easy, and should at no point feel debilitating. A key thing is to run as you feel, and rest more if you feel sluggish, as it is your body's way of telling you you're doing too much. I would not go higher than 65mpw this season if I were you, because as most great coaches will agree it is better to undertrain than to overtrain and put an athlete at the risk of burnout and injury. Also, don't neglect supplemental training such as core work and circuit training directly after your runs 2 or 3 times a week during the summer, as it helps your body stay strong enough to handle the increasing mileage. Once the season comes it is always wise to just do as your coach tells you because he knows you better than I do, and he will likely train you to your strengths and help you work on your weaknesses. This has worked for me and I am using this philosophy this summer as I want to run much better in XC and makes states as well as bring my mile PR down much lower as I ran 4:35 this season and want it below 4:20 the next. If you want to learn more simply google summer mileage cross country or similar terms on thoroughly read the articles that come up. It is always helpful to inform yourself by using a variety of sources and take the pieces from each that seem right for you. Good luck with your season and I hope you do well.