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stupid rounds
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:16PM - in reply to guess im done Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
even more pathetic Lauren Centrowitz and Leah Wallace DNS'd...

They basically only eliminated 4 people, rofl.
J.R.
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:18PM - in reply to stupid rounds Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
usatf ineptitude

3rd heat
1 Alice Schmidt Nike 4:15.70 Q
2 Anna Pierce Nike 4:15.86 Q
3 Amy Mortimer Saucony 4:16.02 Q
4 Jordan Hasay Oregon 4:16.06 Q
5 Brenda Martinez New Balance 4:16.11 Q
6 Phoebe Wright Nike 4:16.29 Q
7 Renee Tomlin Nike 4:16.36 q
8 Melissa Salerno Unattached 4:16.50 q
9 Heidi Dahl New Balance 4:27.68
DNS Lauren Centrowitz New Balance
rojo
co-founder
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:19PM - in reply to tmcarroll Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Women's 1500 Recap in case you are joining this thread late (Sorry for typos but we want to give you recaps as soon as possible).

Women's 1,500
With Lea Wallace and Lauren Centrowitz DNSs, there would only be four people to eliminate in the first round of the women’s 1500.

Thank you USATF for being so stupid. How about including at least 36 people - if not 48 - in the first round of the 1,500.

Women’s 1500 Top 6+6
HEAT ONE
Sara Vaughan brought the pack through in 71.0, then Kate Grace took the lead heading into 600 bringing the pack through in 2:22.8. World Champion Jenny Simpson and Shannon Rowbury took over with a lap to go and brought the pack through 1200 in 3:31.3.

Rowbury looked sharp, closing in 44.6 to take the win with Simpson coming home in second with Nicole Shappert third.

Quick Take #1: We know you don’t need to win this heat but Rowbury looked way better than Simpson.
1 Shannon Rowbury Nike 4:16.17 Q
2 Jenny Simpson New Balance 4:16.70 Q
3 Sarah Bowman New Balance 4:16.86 Q
4 Nicole Schappert N Y A C 4:16.89 Q
5 Sara Vaughn Bowerman Athletic Club 4:17.08 Q
6 Heather Kampf Asics / Team USA Minnesota 4:17.29 Q
7 Kate Grace Oiselle / New Jersey New York 4:17.65 q
8 Cory McGee Florida 4:17.76
9 Stephanie Charnigo New Jersey New York Track Club 4:19.09
DNS Lea Wallace Nike



HEAT TWO:
At 400, Katie Mackey and world #1 Morgan Uceny, on the outside, had the lead at 69.1. Things were unchanged as Mackey and Uceny ran a 71.3 for 2:20.4 at 800.

The pace picked up considerably with a lap to go. Mackey and Uceny (with Flood pushing up on the outside) went through 1200 in 3:27.9 (67.6) and with 200 to go, Uceny had the clear lead, striding smoothly to the finish. Uceny ran the last 400 in 61.8 and 45.9 for the final 300 to win easily.

Quick Take: Uceny looked good. We’d say she and then Rowbury are by far the biggest two favorites to make the team.

1 Morgan Uceny adidas 4:14.07 Q
2 Gabriele Anderson Brooks / Team USA Minnesota 4:14.23 Q
3 Katherine Mackey Brooks 4:14.28 Q
4 Margaret Infeld N Y A C 4:14.60 Q
5 Treniere Moser Nike 4:14.79 Q
6 Greta Feldman Princeton 4:14.89 Q
7 Karly Hamric RIADHA 4:15.33 q
8 Ashley Miller Nebraska 4:15.34 q
9 Katie Flood Washington 4:15.45 q
10 Lauren Bonds adidas Raleigh Track Club 4:20.75




HEAT THREE:
With only nine entered, if all nine ran under 4:17.65, everyone in this final heat would advance.

Phoebe Wright brought the field through in 68.4. Wright continued to lead with a 71.2 and 2:19.4 at 800. With a lap to go, only Heidi Dahl had been dropped as Amy Mortimer took the lead as they hit 1200 in 3:27.6 and a 68.3. The crowd roared as Jordan Hasay moved up to third behind Mortimer and Melissa Salerno as a big crowd of eight came in together. Olympians Alice Schmidt and Anna Pierce asserted themselves in the final straightaway as the first eight in this heat crossed together between 4:15.70 and 4:16.50 and all advanced.

Quick Take #1: Jordan Hasay got the biggest cheers of anyone so far at the Trials.

1 Alice Schmidt Nike 4:15.70 Q
2 Anna Pierce Nike 4:15.86 Q
3 Amy Mortimer Saucony 4:16.02 Q
4 Jordan Hasay Oregon 4:16.06 Q
5 Brenda Martinez New Balance 4:16.11 Q
6 Phoebe Wright Nike 4:16.29 Q
7 Renee Tomlin Nike 4:16.36 q
8 Melissa Salerno Unattached 4:16.50 q
9 Heidi Dahl New Balance 4:27.68
DNS Lauren Centrowitz New Balance
J.R.
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:22PM - in reply to rojo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
1st heat 2:00.3 good pace
J.R.
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:23PM - in reply to rojo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2:59.9 + kick
J.R.
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:24PM - in reply to rojo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
3:41

Miller, Torrence, Centro, See, Clark, Bolas
lowwer
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:27PM - in reply to J.R. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Here's why it's ludicrous: USATF says they want to simulate the rounds at the Olympics so we send people who can deal with rounds. BUT if the athletes with the A standards crash and burn in the final, they will still go whether they can handle rounds or not. Either let people chase the standard, or go with the set up that lets people be the most successful and wastes the least amount of time. 28 people could have easily been a 2 heat semifinal. I believe the final of the women's 15 in 2004 actually had 14 girls.
Aggieeessss
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:32PM - in reply to J.R. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Clarkdaddy ready to run some fools down
J.R.
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:44PM - in reply to Aggieeessss Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
1 William Leer Nike 3:40.79 Q
2 AJ Acosta Oregon 3:40.98 Q
3 Garrett Heath Saucony 3:41.02 Q
4 Robby Andrews adidas 3:41.11 Q
5 Miles Batty B Y U 3:41.21 Q
6 German Fernandez Unattached 3:41.33 Q
7 Brian Gagnon New Jersey New York Track Club 3:41.38
8 Stephen Pifer Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:41.47
9 John Jefferson Brooks 3:41.64
10 Kyle Miller Nike 3:48.81

Fernandez barely made it.

However heat 2 has all 6 of the q'a so far.
J.R.
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:47PM - in reply to Aggieeessss Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Heat 1 [View Splits]

Place Athlete Name Affiliation Time Qual
1 Craig Miller New Balance 3:41.89 Q
2 David Torrence Nike 3:41.99 Q
3 Matthew Centrowitz Nike 3:42.02 Q
4 Jeff See Saucony 3:42.03 Q
5 Daniel Clark Unattached 3:42.05 Q
6 Jack Bolas New Balance 3:42.14 Q
7 Andrew Bayer Indiana University 3:42.14 q
8 Riley Masters Oklahoma 3:42.71
9 Duncan Phillips Arkansas 3:42.75
10 Erik Van Ingen S U N Y Binghamton 3:43.52

Heat 2 [View Splits]

Place Athlete Name Affiliation Time Qual
1 William Leer Nike 3:40.79 Q
2 AJ Acosta Oregon 3:40.98 Q
3 Garrett Heath Saucony 3:41.02 Q
4 Robby Andrews adidas 3:41.11 Q
5 Miles Batty B Y U 3:41.21 Q
6 German Fernandez Unattached 3:41.33 Q
7 Brian Gagnon New Jersey New York Track Club 3:41.38 q
8 Stephen Pifer Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:41.47 q
9 John Jefferson Brooks 3:41.64 q
10 Kyle Miller Nike 3:48.81

Heat 3 [View Splits]

Place Athlete Name Affiliation Time Qual
1 Jordan McNamara Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:40.78 Q
2 Leonel Manzano Nike 3:40.91 Q
3 Russell Brown Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:41.13 Q
4 Andrew Wheating Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:41.14 Q
5 Liam Boylan-Pett New Jersey New York Track Club 3:41.17 Q
6 John Mickowski Unattached 3:41.18 Q
7 Matthew Maldonado Long Beach State 3:41.93 q
8 Dorian Ulrey Nike 3:42.55 q
9 Rob Finnerty Wisconsin 3:43.89
10 Kyle Merber Columbia 3:45.87
RukiddingMe!!
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:49PM - in reply to J.R. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
he got lucky...last to qualify!

Dorian Ulrey Nike 3:42.55
J.R.
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:49PM - in reply to J.R. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
How about letting in the top 60, having 5 heats of 12, and the top 24 times qualify for the semis.

In the semis, the top 12 times qualify for the finals.
rojo
co-founder
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 6:50PM - in reply to stupid rounds Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Going to get some interviews. We apologize for any spelling mistakes:

Men’s 1500 Top 6+6
HEAT ONE:
Riley Masters took the field through the 400 in 60.3. NCAA Champion Andy Bayer was right behind as Masters brought them through in 60.0 and a 2:00.3 at 800. By 1000, World Championships bronze medalist Matt Centrowitz had positioned himself well in third and then took the lead with 400 to go.

They hit 1200 at 2:59.9 with Centro looking smooth and sitting on David Torrence. A 42.2 final 300 brought them home as Craig Miller came by Torrence on the inside for the heat win in 3:41.89. Torrence in 3:41.99 and Centro in 3:42.02 were the top three. After all the early work, Riley Masters was eighth and NCAA champ Bayer was seventh in 3:42.14, a mere three one-thounsandths behind sixth place Jack Bolas, also 3:42.14.

In the end, Bayer would get in on time, Masters would not.

Quick Take #1: Centrowitz looks so smooth.

1 Craig Miller New Balance 3:41.89 Q
2 David Torrence Nike 3:41.99 Q
3 Matthew Centrowitz Nike 3:42.02 Q
4 Jeff See Saucony 3:42.03 Q
5 Daniel Clark Unattached 3:42.05 Q
6 Jack Bolas New Balance 3:42.14 Q
7 Andrew Bayer Indiana University 3:42.14 q
8 Riley Masters Oklahoma 3:42.71
9 Duncan Phillips Arkansas 3:42.75
10 Erik Van Ingen S U N Y Binghamton 3:43.52







HEAT TWO:
Stephen Pifer took the lead and brought the field through in the most aggressive first lap of the day, men or women. They hit 400 58.9 as the pack was still together. Hanging comfortably in the back in lane one was Robby Andrews. Garrett Heath and German Fernandez lurked as Will Leer took the lead as 800 was passed in 2:00.1

Leer continued to keep things honest and with a lap to go, AJ Acosta and Fernandes were right on this shoulder as Andrews began his ascent through the field. A 59.3 third lap brought the field through in 2:59.4 at 1200.

With 200 to go, Andrews was still moving up but Leer had the most clear and straight run to the finish. Leer closed in 41.1 for the final 300 to take the win in 3:40.79, .21 ahead of Acosta, with Andrews coming in fourth with a 55.41 final 400 to pass most of the field before finishing fourth.

Quick Take #1: This heat certainly was superior to heat 1 in terms of last lap and overall finishing time. Virtually everyone up front in this race ran a 55 last lap whereas in heat 1 only Daniel Clark (55.65) and Jeff See (55.95) broke 56.

1 William Leer Nike 3:40.79 Q
2 AJ Acosta Oregon 3:40.98 Q
3 Garrett Heath Saucony 3:41.02 Q
4 Robby Andrews adidas 3:41.11 Q
5 Miles Batty B Y U 3:41.21 Q
6 German Fernandez Unattached 3:41.33 Q
7 Brian Gagnon New Jersey New York Track Club 3:41.38 q
8 Stephen Pifer Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:41.47 q
9 John Jefferson Brooks 3:41.64 q
10 Kyle Miller Nike 3:48.81




HEAT THREE:
If all ran under 3:41.50, all 10 will advance.

Rob Finnerty and Russell Brown towed the field through the first 400 in 59.1. The field came through the fastest 800 split of the day as Finnerty ran a 60.1 for 1:59.1. As the field approached 1000, crowd favorite Andrew Wheating began moving up from the back of the pack and with 500 to go, Dorian Ulrey took the lead with Brown and Leo Manzano lurking.

A 60.4 split brought the field through in 2:59.4 as Jordan McNamara took the lead with 250 to go as McNamara and John Mickowski fought for the lead as the hit 200 to go. McNamara closed in 41.4 for the final 300 and the lead pack of six seemed to separate. As they hit the final 15 meters, however, Mickowski seemed to trip and fell across the line but still managed the sixth and final auto qualifier.
1 Jordan McNamara Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:40.78 Q
2 Leonel Manzano Nike 3:40.91 Q
3 Russell Brown Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:41.13 Q
4 Andrew Wheating Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:41.14 Q
5 Liam Boylan-Pett New Jersey New York Track Club 3:41.17 Q
6 John Mickowski Unattached 3:41.18 Q
7 Matthew Maldonado Long Beach State 3:41.93
8 Dorian Ulrey Nike 3:42.55
9 Rob Finnerty Wisconsin 3:43.89
10 Kyle Merber Columbia 3:45.87
these heats are useless
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 7:13PM - in reply to rojo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
These heats are useless. 24 of 28 women move on, and 24 of 30 men? Couldn't the organizers easily have skipped today and gone straight to a semi-final? I understand that there is an intent to "replicate" the Olympic experience, but these two heats served very little purpose. No wonder the average fan has trouble with track and field.
gonchar
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 7:29PM - in reply to these heats are useless Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Totally Useless, and a disservice to the USA athletes. This has nothing to do with replicating the pressure and stresses of Olympic Heats. How utterly ridiculous to assert that it does. Wow..so Kyle Merber was eliminated today. Anything else of note?
dsrunner has the day off
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 7:31PM - in reply to lowwer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
yeah good thinking on your part but it wont change.
explaining this to USATF is like explaining infinity
to a poodle.
Toro
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 7:39PM - in reply to gonchar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So, no one even tried for the A standard.

Waiting for the finals does not make sense unless you are just hoping someone else makes it fast.

This will be a meet to see which of the 7 will not make the team.
The others are just racing for national staid, not for the Olympics.
thankyouthankyou!
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 7:48PM - in reply to MG Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Thank you MG!!! Wish I'd known about this before the rest days.

Will be great to have this while they're showing commercials and NBA draft updates during the 5000 tonight!
Irish Mid D
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 7:52PM - in reply to Aggieeessss Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Clarkdaddy is a man. Is he still with MCM Track Club?
Azaleas
RE: 1500, 5000 & steeple play by plays - women and men 6/28/2012 8:01PM - in reply to Toro Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Anyone think German might try for the Olympic A in the semifinal? He does seem to like front-running anyway.
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