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caveman
Critique my Paleo Diet 6/25/2012 8:29PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So I recently picked up eating only like our ancestors, and have been feeling amazing. Right now some of the staples in my diet include meat, chicken, and fish, obviously, and fruits and raw vegetables. What I wonder about are things like oats and nuts. Am I supposed to eat nuts? And oats require heating to eat, so can I eat these.

I;m trying to get my 5k PR from 16:52 to around 15:30, and I think going Paleo will make a big difference. Thanks for help!
paleo dude
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/25/2012 10:03PM - in reply to caveman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Just focus on decreasing your intake of carbs. Success will follow.
Oh please
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/25/2012 10:06PM - in reply to caveman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
NICE TRY
Ho hummer
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/25/2012 10:09PM - in reply to caveman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
A real paleo diet wouldn't include oats or any other grains. Avoid artificially bred animals, like cows, pigs, and chickens. Their meat is unnatural. You need to stick to freshly killed deer, squirrel, owl, and cat.

No almonds, since they were poisonous until we selected the non-poisonous ones. No peanuts either, that's too recent. No legumes of any kind. Watch out for fruits and vegetables, as they are also very different from the foods paleo people would have eaten. Mushrooms would be a good choice.
kudzurunner
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/25/2012 10:13PM - in reply to caveman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
-1/10
Young Buck
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/25/2012 10:16PM - in reply to paleo dude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

paleo dude wrote:

Just focus on decreasing your intake of carbs. Success will follow.


Paleo dude what's your opinion on low carb during summer base training to lose weight?
lol lol lol lol
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/25/2012 11:06PM - in reply to caveman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

caveman wrote:

So I recently picked up eating only like our ancestors, and have been feeling amazing. Right now some of the staples in my diet include meat, chicken, and fish, obviously, and fruits and raw vegetables. What I wonder about are things like oats and nuts. Am I supposed to eat nuts? And oats require heating to eat, so can I eat these.



Cooking is fine. Humans have been using fire for a long, long, long time.

Real nuts (not peanuts) are fine. Just make sure the ingredients do not include vegetable oils.

RE oats: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/are-oats-healthy/#axzz1yrvl06bj

Good place to start:

http://www.gnolls.org/
max219
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/25/2012 11:29PM - in reply to caveman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Just eat real food. All meats/fish/eggs, veggies, root veggies. Good snacks include fruit, nuts, dark chocolate.

Main things to limit/avoid are vegetable oils, grains (gluten in particular), and excess sugar.

Since you probably run you might want to include white rice, a good starch source with low anti-nutrients. Obviously all potatoes are fine for carbs, in addition to squash, pumpkin, sweet potatoes, etc.
Paleo garbage
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/25/2012 11:46PM - in reply to max219 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Some vegetable oils are fine.

Gluten is fine for the vast majority of people

The anti-nutrient fears are totally unfounded.
pr100
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/26/2012 1:06AM - in reply to caveman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I find that a mammoth keeps me going for a while...
Holly Brown
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/26/2012 11:29AM - in reply to caveman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Add sweet potatoes and if you haven't read Sweet Potato Power, get it! I ran a half-marathon paleo style and I was only 2 minutes off my first half-marathon that was not paleo (and that would be due to 1. a more challenging course and 2. some inclimate weather). I had a great deal of energy and I continue to prepare for my next half paleo style.
DefrostedCaveMan
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/26/2012 11:39AM - in reply to Holly Brown Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hi runners,

Me Caveman, me cold. Me just woke up from ice block for long time. Me use dell computer, me talk to you! You have problem with food? Me eat food! Me love grilled dodo breast! Me love pulled woolly! Me love keystone, keystone light! Me caveman! Me eat my wifes kids too! Kids delicious! Kids yummy! Me go sleep now!

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Cavemen!
jakethefake
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/26/2012 11:54AM - in reply to caveman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The paleo diet has some good elements, especially because it cuts out all processed sugary foods. However, there is no scientific basis for the paleo diet. (1) it assumes evolution opperates on extremely long time scales, which we know to be false (2) Back when we were cavemen we lived shorter lives, we did not have worry about things like heart disease, it was much more likely you would die of starvation and other things that would kill you much earlier in life (3) While there is evidence that a paleo diet (and other low carb diets) cause you to lose weight, there is also evidence that it leads to health problems later in life.

A paleo diet is reasonable as long as you don't go crazy with it. Every fruit or vegetable should be allowed, and less processed carb foods such as whole weat pasta and bread should also be allowed (at least in moderation). You need fiber in your diet.
cdsvbtbetsd
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/26/2012 1:24PM - in reply to jakethefake Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"You need fiber in your diet"

What did cavemen do for fiber? If I eat too much fiber (beans, whole wheat pasta, brown rice) my IBS goes haywire and I'm squeezing out playdough for 3 days. This has all been reduced significantly by refraining from eating starchy complex carbs and beans, and limiting myself to mostly veggies, potatoes, and meat.
NotPopular
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/26/2012 3:34PM - in reply to caveman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You should scavenge the subSaharan plain for food. That might do it.
eat right for your type
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/27/2012 12:42AM - in reply to caveman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
sounds interesting but again it may go too far

For a while i followed the blood type dietary suggestions and it was definitely better for me, based on my feeling of wellbeing.

However, i am AB+ blood type and this appeared only about 1000 years ago (as they say). So a pure paleo diet would have been before my bloods time. Makes it a bit confusing.

Just for background info -

O blood type is where we began in Africa and this blood type needs a more robust diet - removal of red meat for these people doesn't work out so well.

B - this stands for Balanced and developed as our African ancestors headed towards Asia. Rice/soy over wheat and fish over meat are general characteristics.

A - this stands for Agricultural and is characterised by the Africans who headed more North and found the lush plains of Europe. This type is characterised by, as the name suggests, agricultural produce such as grains, whilst being more balanced than an O to the point where red and white meats are eaten more equally.

AB - this is a combination of A and B and is only in evidence since the A and B types started intermixing a couple of thousand years ago. It is characterised by the need for a little bit of everything, however it better to eat lamb than beef as one example.
jakethefake
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/27/2012 3:47PM - in reply to cdsvbtbetsd Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Vegetables consumed during the paleo period contained far more fiber than modern day vegetables. However, if you are eating a lot of vegetables then you are getting quite a bit of fiber, way more than someone who eats mainly refined grains. But this is irrelevant, the idea that we should be following what cavemen did just for the hell of it is stupid.

The evolutionary logic behind it is completely erroneous. Fitness in the paleo period was mainly determined by things like infections, diseases, starvation and whether you were killed by a large animal. Fitness is only determined by whether you reproduce, so someone who lives to 40 and someone who lives to 80 are equal by evolutionary standards during the paleo period.

Also the premise that cavemen during the paleo period ate no refined grains is also false. There is evidence that processed grains are actually an old component of the diet that proceeded agriculture for quite some time.
Groundskeeper Willie
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/27/2012 3:53PM - in reply to eat right for your type Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

eat right for your type wrote:

sounds interesting but again it may go too far

For a while i followed the blood type dietary suggestions and it was definitely better for me, based on my feeling of wellbeing.

However, i am AB+ blood type and this appeared only about 1000 years ago (as they say). So a pure paleo diet would have been before my bloods time. Makes it a bit confusing.

Just for background info -

O blood type is where we began in Africa and this blood type needs a more robust diet - removal of red meat for these people doesn't work out so well.

B - this stands for Balanced and developed as our African ancestors headed towards Asia. Rice/soy over wheat and fish over meat are general characteristics.

A - this stands for Agricultural and is characterised by the Africans who headed more North and found the lush plains of Europe. This type is characterised by, as the name suggests, agricultural produce such as grains, whilst being more balanced than an O to the point where red and white meats are eaten more equally.

AB - this is a combination of A and B and is only in evidence since the A and B types started intermixing a couple of thousand years ago. It is characterised by the need for a little bit of everything, however it better to eat lamb than beef as one example.


Never heard of this, where'd you pull that from?
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RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/27/2012 4:12PM - in reply to Groundskeeper Willie Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Been doing paleo for about a month and feel great. I eat once or twice a day and am never hungry during the interim. I don't run anymore, so IDK what effect it would have on running performance.

Weight training + paleo diet = best physique I've ever had
juicy juicer
RE: Critique my Paleo Diet 6/27/2012 6:43PM - in reply to Groundskeeper Willie Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Groundskeeper Willie wrote:

[quote]eat right for your type wrote:

sounds interesting but again it may go too far

For a while i followed the blood type dietary suggestions and it was definitely better for me, based on my feeling of wellbeing.

However, i am AB+ blood type and this appeared only about 1000 years ago (as they say). So a pure paleo diet would have been before my bloods time. Makes it a bit confusing.

Just for background info -

O blood type is where we began in Africa and this blood type needs a more robust diet - removal of red meat for these people doesn't work out so well.

B - this stands for Balanced and developed as our African ancestors headed towards Asia. Rice/soy over wheat and fish over meat are general characteristics.

A - this stands for Agricultural and is characterised by the Africans who headed more North and found the lush plains of Europe. This type is characterised by, as the name suggests, agricultural produce such as grains, whilst being more balanced than an O to the point where red and white meats are eaten more equally.

AB - this is a combination of A and B and is only in evidence since the A and B types started intermixing a couple of thousand years ago. It is characterised by the need for a little bit of everything, however it better to eat lamb than beef as one example.


Never heard of this, where'd you pull that from?[/quote]

um, ever heard of HIS ASS???
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