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if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/25/2012 6:51PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
OK, let's agree that the 5000 goes without saying.

Given the way he destroyed the 1500 field at USATF last year, I think 1500 is relatively safe for him.

10,000 it gets hard to say. In a head-to-head time trial with Rupp right now, Rupp takes him, no contest. But in a tactical race with limited competition holding the A, I think Lagat sits on Rupp and crushes him the same as he does every 5000 they run.

Steeple, no question. Lagat is Kenyan. He is an athlete. He might not be able to run a world class steeple this moment, but he doesn't need to make the US team. (And honestly, I think he has the tools to do damage in this event.)


In fact, I think 1500/5000/10,000/steeple is TOO EASY for Lagat. To make it interesting, which FIFTH event would he have a chance to make: the 800 or the half marathon? (The HM "world championship" that IAAF puts on?)
coach d
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/25/2012 6:56PM - in reply to rupp-certified saladbar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lagat himself has said he couldn't stay awake through a 10000.

Don't think it's ever going to happen. Given that Lagat and El Guerrouj already ran a 1:46 800 with a 700m flying start (the 2004 Oly 1500 final), it would be interesting to see what he could do the easy way like every other 800 runners.
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RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/25/2012 7:20PM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

coach d wrote:
Don't think it's ever going to happen.


Neither do I! It's just a hypothetical discussion about Lagat's awesomeness.

Put it this way: I think that if Lagat were told for some reason he couldn't run the 5000 trials, he could make the team in the 1500. AND if this hypothetical event stopped him from running the 1500, too, we could make the team in either of the 10,000 last week or this week's steeple. Maybe even 800.

His competition:

1500 = Wheating, Manzano
5000 = Nobody
10,000 = Rupp, Ritz
Steeple = Jagr, Huling?

Hell, there's some chance he could even WIN all of these.
douglas burke
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/25/2012 7:30PM - in reply to rupp-certified saladbar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
he would beat rupp in a 10000 regardless of if its fast or tactical, i hope after the olympics is over lagat gets in the brussells 10000, he could probably run under 26:40.

lagat can get the american half marathon record of 59:43 if he runs it soon (within the next 2 years) as father time will eventually beat him also.

even a 2:04-205 marathon is possible for him.
hehateme (wejo is a faggit)
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/25/2012 7:32PM - in reply to rupp-certified saladbar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
before or after he started taking EPO?
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RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/25/2012 8:52PM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

douglas burke wrote:

he would beat rupp in a 10000 regardless of if its fast or tactical, i hope after the olympics is over lagat gets in the brussells 10000, he could probably run under 26:40.

lagat can get the american half marathon record of 59:43 if he runs it soon (within the next 2 years) as father time will eventually beat him also.

even a 2:04-205 marathon is possible for him.


you should change your screen name to druggie d. burke
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RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/25/2012 9:01PM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
LOL. Sounds like he is afraid of the 10k.
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RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/25/2012 9:02PM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
That's why Rupp is TWICE the man Lagat will EVER be.
has to be said
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/25/2012 9:11PM - in reply to rupp-certified saladbar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yes, and you still couldn't get laid.
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RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/26/2012 2:53AM - in reply to has to be said Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

has to be said wrote:

Yes, and you still couldn't get laid.


Ha! I'm writing this on my phone in bed next to your girl. Or maybe it's your mom? Either way, she hates you.
ventolin^3
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/26/2012 3:57AM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

douglas burke wrote:he would beat rupp in a 10000 regardless of if its fast or tactical, i hope after the olympics is over lagat gets in the brussells 10000, he could probably run under 26:40


no

he woudn't

bernie has got his speed back with that recent 53 finish in 3'34 in new york

he's got to be good for about 3'32-flat in perfect race

no one knows currently his 5k shape, but around 12'50 mark shoud be a given

prelim line of fit is :

51.0 / 1'47.8 ->
3'32.0
4'48.7
7'25.8
12'49.6
26'51.7


of course drafting in the 10k to the end woud help a lot, but rupp is 10s+ better than that over 10k
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RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/26/2012 4:02AM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Agreed with Ventolin on their 'basic' 10,000 ability.

Still convinced that in a trials scenario Lagat beats Rupp in 10,000 nine times out of ten. And of course makes the team.

Does he come back to top-three in the steeple, sub-8:20 the next week?
ventolin^3
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/26/2012 4:04AM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
to run under 26'40 for him woud mean he had world-leading 5k ability by a long way

a prelim for that with still 3'32 is

51.4 / 1'48.2 ->
3'32.1
4'48.4
7'24.4
12'45.5
26'38.5


i don't see 12'45 potential in him at his age
Fishing Instructor
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/26/2012 9:15AM - in reply to rupp-certified saladbar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Given the way he destroyed the 1500 field at USATF last year, I think 1500 is relatively safe for him.

Destroyed the field? Lagat was second behind Centrowitz last year.
Mr. Obvious
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/26/2012 9:20AM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He isn't running 7:25.
ventolin^3
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/26/2012 9:45AM - in reply to Mr. Obvious Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
err

saidi-thief ran 3'29.5/12'50.8 in '00/'01

he ran 7'25.0, 3rd fastest ever, in same years
( & 4'46.8 - 2nd fastest ever in his only attempt )

he ran that with 2k split of 5'01+, meaning 2'23+ last k & nearly all of the quickening in last lap

he was in 7'22/7'23 shape that day off even pace

bernie is as good/better at 5k currently
( 12'53pb with 54 finish with a 2'40 4th km - it was better than sief's 12'50 with 55 or 56 finish with more even pace all the way thru, iirc )
& that leaves his deficit for 3k with inferior 1500 speed

that'll get him 7'25

sief's prelims "composite" line for '00/'01 -

49.3 / 1'45.3 ->
3'28.9
4'45.4
7'22.8
12'48.9
27.01.5


49.4 / 1'45.5 ->
3'29.3
4'45.9
7'23.6
12'50.1
27.04.0


49.5 / 1'45.6 ->
3'29.3
4'45.9
7'23.2
12'49.1
27.00.7
ventolin^3
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/26/2012 9:54AM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
forgot to add

those 3 lines are also very prelim for bernie '06 when he ran 3'29/12'59

( i off course don't need to further add that that 12'59 was the race where he destroyed kennster with a 51.5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2rHmSKqs2w )
REALLY?!?!
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/26/2012 10:03AM - in reply to rupp-certified saladbar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Could Lagat qualify for the US team in the 800m??

No.
bartz
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/26/2012 11:26AM - in reply to REALLY?!?! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

REALLY?!?! wrote:

Could Lagat qualify for the US team in the 800m??

No.


Agreed. Remember when he ran it for the trials in a WC year? He didn't look that great.
has to be said
RE: if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES! 6/26/2012 2:02PM - in reply to rupp-certified saladbar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

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[quote]has to be said wrote:

Yes, and you still couldn't get laid.


Ha! I'm writing this on my phone in bed next to your girl. Or maybe it's your mom? Either way, she hates you.[/quote]
I´m homosexual and my mum is 74 years old. Your sexual preferences are certainly weird.
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