turkey leg
Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/25/2012 3:51PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
With Hart, on track to becoming the GOAT of the 400. Since leaving, gradual decline to becoming a foot note.
545454
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/25/2012 3:55PM - in reply to turkey leg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Stu Hart has trained many a fine athlete in his Canadian dungeon.
Uhhh
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/25/2012 4:14PM - in reply to turkey leg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't think anyone thought it was a good idea for him to leave..l
mcgato
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/25/2012 5:24PM - in reply to Uhhh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Wariner himself admitted that it was a mistake. That's why he went back to Hart in early 2009.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2009-05-21-wariner-coach_N.htm?csp=34
luv2run
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/25/2012 5:34PM - in reply to turkey leg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It was a mistake, but I do not think it has any bearing on what is happening now. I believe Wariner re-united with Hart in 2009. Wariner has slowed and others have stepped up. Happens in sports.
Old Runner
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/25/2012 5:43PM - in reply to luv2run Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

luv2run wrote:

It was a mistake, but I do not think it has any bearing on what is happening now. I believe Wariner re-united with Hart in 2009. Wariner has slowed and others have stepped up. Happens in sports.


Ding ding ding...we have a winner. this is the answer. Leaving Hart in 2008 most likely cost Wariner the Gold in 2008. His Woes (more accurately, his problems) since then are not related to leaving Hart.
prima da'wronga
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/25/2012 6:09PM - in reply to Old Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hart shouldn't have taken him back.
Night Runner
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/25/2012 6:54PM - in reply to prima da'wronga Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You obviously are naive. Coaches and managers etc get greedy and demand more and more of an athlete's earnings. The athlete pays all the expenses and the manager and coach often get much of the gravy. Wariner got tired of it. Believe me, coaches are in this for the money just like everyone else. Hart was no whit hat.

I lost my respect for Hart when he bragged about Wariner having to crawl back to him. What cocky arrogance. No class.

Someone here commented on Johnson giving Wariner some shit, Johnson was the biggest jerk out there when he was breaking records. How many times did he refuse to run in this country because the money wasn't enough?

As I have said earlier, too many of you here are naive as to how the world really works. You still have a grade school naivete.
gonchar
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/25/2012 7:18PM - in reply to Night Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Night Runner, you cannot argue with the negative sequence of events after Wariner left Hart. At his level of talent, you simply suck it up and deal with Hart's perceived greedy financial negotiating tactics. What about Wariner's agent? he failed his client. Coaches have a right to ask for what they are think they're worth. Its up to the Agent to mediate and find a way to keep the glue together. The long run and good vibes at the track everyday is more important than a relatively small financial split.

No 2008 Olympic Gold, that's the bottom line. It is clearly very closely correlated to Wariner leaving Hart.
casual commentary
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/26/2012 3:42AM - in reply to gonchar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
defending his title in 08 meant legacy, instead he was a flash in the pan.
Avante
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/26/2012 4:41AM - in reply to Night Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Wow so much insight. Dude, please.
karidian
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/26/2012 5:54AM - in reply to Avante Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
WTF!! He's had a great career and it's now over. I wish him well and it's time to move on.
Gallagher
RE: Now will everyone believe that Wariner made a mistake when he left Hart? 6/26/2012 7:41AM - in reply to turkey leg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Since Wariner's decline began with his RETURN to Hart, not his departure, this particular narrative is clearly false