| rojo co-founder |
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I'm clarifying my earlier post. 1) One of the runner's can decline the position. If they do so, they are the 1st alternate. 2) If they both want a coin toss, it's a coin toss. If one of them wants a run off, it's a run off. If neither one of them announces a preference, then it's a coin toss. I don't think they announced how the coin toss would be done. Who gets to call it? I mean i'd want to call it. |
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Didn't you already post this? |
| domination |
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I think it makes sense to select the athlete with the slower reaction time as she would have run covered the distance quicker |
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Wait! What happened to that other thread? |
| Dineroooooo |
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How much time do they get to voice a preference? |
| churchill downs regular |
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3) Rock-paper-scissors That's the way a true American would settle it. |
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The last thread wasn't exactly the same. As he said, he posted a clarification, since there was some confusion as to what happened if the athletes didn't agree on what they wanted to do. Specifically, the changes/additions are: 1) There will be a run-off if either wants a run-off 2) If neither states their preferences, there will be a coin toss Again, it was unclear what would happen if they differed, and I don't think he knew they could abstain yet. |
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Where's the other thread on this? Did you just arbitrarily decide to ignore those posts? What is wrong with you, rojo? |
| rillbodgers |
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Really? A coin toss? This is freakin embarrassing. |
| crimedog |
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http://www.usatf.org/News/Dead-heat-procedures-announced.aspx highest iaaf rank gets to call it |
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Sounds like there will be some serious queefing going on either way |
| Mr. Perfect |
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THEY SHOULD GET BETTER TIMING SYSTEMS THAT GO TO THE TRILIONTH DECIMAL PLACE. |
| Hollow Man |
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This is amateur hour at its finest. According to Malmo, the CEO doesn't get involved in such petty things like this. Obviously that is not correct. Perhaps USATF now will invest in some technology that goes out further than 3 places to the right of the decimal point. |
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I wanna see a run off! |
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A run off is awesome for the sport. Lay down a 100m track in Times Square and have the race at night during prime time. imagine the coverage... |
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Their procedure doesn't even handle every case right. If one athlete chooses coin toss and the other abstains then the result is a run-off! (via rule 2b @ http://www.usatf.org/News/Dead-heat-procedures-announced.aspx). |
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It should be a run-off at a time to be determined in the not to distant future, PERIOD. That's what this sport is about. If either athlete declines to participate, that athlete shall be named as the alternate. There, simple. What a joke. Do we know when the USATF is going to make Felix/Tarmoh decide what they want to do? Bobby was hoping they could put it off until after the 200, I say make them make the decision now, forget allowing them to see how things pan out. That's not what track is. Track, minus the PEDs, should be/was about pure competition, now we're making it about coin-flips and let me see what happens later this week. |
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Read all this shit, this is hilarious? It has to be a quarter with GW on the front and an eagle on the back (no state quarters allowed) and all sorts of other stipulations. Funny as hell: USA Track & Field and the United States Olympic Committee announce the following procedures, to be applied to the women’s 100 meters and any other running event for which there may be a dead heat for third place at the 2012 U.S. Olympic Team Trials – Track & Field. These procedures were developed through consultation between USATF officials and representatives of the Olympic track & field athlete community, and were presented to and approved by the USOC. USATF President and Chairman Stephanie Hightower, CEO Max Siegel, USOC CEO Scott Blackmun and Sport Performance officials from both organizations contributed to the formation and approval of these procedures. The USOC approves all selection procedures for the Olympic Team in each sport and had previously approved track & field selection procedures entering the 2012 U.S. Olympic Trials. Those procedures did not take into account a third-place dead heat. The affected athletes and/or their representatives have been informed of these procedures. USATF will provide an update when the final means of determining which athlete will fill the third spot on the Olympic Team in the women’s 100 meters has been established. * * * In case of a tie, the following procedure shall be used for breaking a tie for the final qualifying slot in a running-event final in which a U.S. National Team or Olympic Team is being selected: If either athlete declines his or her position on the National Team/Olympic Team, that athlete will be named the alternate and the other athlete will assume the final available position. If neither athlete declines their position, they will be given the option to determine the tie-breaker via coin toss or by run-off. If both athletes choose the same option, that option will be utilized as the tie-breaker. If the athletes disagree on the tie-breaker, the tie will be broken by a run-off. If both athletes refuse to declare a preference regarding the method between a run off and coin toss in regards to how the tie is broken, the tie will be broken by coin toss. Run-Off Protocol USATF’s Chief of Sport Performance, in consultation with the athletes and their coaches, will determine the time of the run-off depending on entry deadlines, travel, practice and competition schedules, and the best interests of the National Team/Olympic Team. If the run-off also results in a dead heat, the tie will be broken by a coin toss. Coin Toss Protocol USATF shall provide a United States Quarter Dollar coin with the image of George Washington appearing on the obverse hub of the coin and an Eagle appearing on the reverse hub of the coin. Each athlete shall inspect the coin to ensure the obverse and reverse hubs of the coin reflect the images of George Washington and the Eagle, respectively. The athlete with the highest world ranking according to the IAAF rankings as of 8 am PST on the date of the coin toss shall declare his or her choice of "heads" for the obverse hub or "tails" for the reverse hub. If the athlete with the highest world ranking chooses not to declare his or her choice, that athlete shall be assigned the choice of heads for the obverse hub of the coin. The other athlete shall be designated, by default, the choice either: 1. Not chosen by the highest-ranking athlete or 2. Tails should the highest-ranking athlete choose not to declare his or her choice. The choices shall be confirmed by a representative chosen by USATF. Once the choices have been made and confirmed by the USATF representative, each athlete shall face each other and the USATF representative shall bend his or her index finger at a 90 degree angle to his or her thumb, allowing the coin to rest on his or her thumb. In one single action, the USATF representative shall toss the coin into the air, allowing the coin to fall to the ground. Once the coin has fallen to the ground, the USATF representative shall, without touching or lifting the coin, view the coin and determine whether the coin has landed on the obverse or reverse hub. In the event that the coin does not fall completely on either the obverse or reverse hub, the USATF representative shall repeat the toss process as described above. The athlete who chose the hub that is displayed shall be declared the winner by the USATF representative. In the event either or both athlete refuses to participate in the coin toss, the USATF representative shall assign the athlete with the highest world ranking "heads" and the other athlete "tails" and shall toss the coin in the presence of at least two witnesses and declare the winner pursuant to the procedure set forth above. |
| JoeGarland |
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I realize it had to be as specific as it is, but it brought to mind the royal hand grenade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOrgLj9lOwk |
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You could just tie Felix's right leg to Tarmoh's left leg and let them run that way in London. |