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bad endurance
Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 7:03PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I know that my times are very slow but I haven't been running for that long. During spring track I ran 4:58 for the mile and just last week ran a 5k in 18:50. I haven't been doing really low mileage so I don't know why my endurance is so awful. During the season I was averaging about 50 mpw, now I'm doing closer to 60 mpw. Why is my endurance so awful?
Answer Mann
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 7:09PM - in reply to bad endurance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

bad endurance wrote:

I haven't been running for that long.


What you saiid.
chinocochio
RE: I just ran 10 miles in 85 minutes. So tired! Facebook status updates. 6/19/2012 7:23PM - in reply to Answer Mann Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No, its not that he hasn't been running that long. If he's running 50-60mpw and 4:58 for the 1600, he should be running the 5K at about 17:00-17:20.



Answer Mann wrote:

[quote]bad endurance wrote:

I haven't been running for that long.


What you saiid.[/quote]
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RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 7:25PM - in reply to bad endurance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
harder 4-6M tempos and longer intervals (800m-2k) should help.
hmmmmmm......
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 7:29PM - in reply to bad endurance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah, something is going on.

What kind of pace do you typically run on your easy, general training runs?

Can you outline what a typical week looks like for you as far as distances, type of run/workout?
I know
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 7:33PM - in reply to bad endurance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You're doing too much mileage for someone who has not been running for very long. You're overtrained. Back off.
bad endurance
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 7:36PM - in reply to I know Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

I know wrote:

You're doing too much mileage for someone who has not been running for very long. You're overtrained. Back off.


I've been running since like September, so I'm doing too much mileage?
bad endurance
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 7:46PM - in reply to hmmmmmm...... Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

hmmmmmm...... wrote:

Yeah, something is going on.

What kind of pace do you typically run on your easy, general training runs?

Can you outline what a typical week looks like for you as far as distances, type of run/workout?


About a month ago I started heart rate training. I've been basically following a Hadd type plan. My easy runs are at 75% of my max heart rate and two days a week I'm doing tempo runs at 83% max heart rate.
aksfdljghalfhg
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 7:54PM - in reply to bad endurance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If it makes you feel better My best mile is 4:54 and 5k is 18:20 however i rarely run the mile and my 800 is 2:01 flat though. I also do less then 30 a week in season.
aksfdljghalfhg
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 7:57PM - in reply to aksfdljghalfhg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I just realized how much of an ass that made me sound like...sorry.
nopar king
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 7:58PM - in reply to aksfdljghalfhg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
oooooh you soooooo badassssss
aksfdljghalfhg
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 8:02PM - in reply to nopar king Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Like I said, I didn't realize initially how much of an ass I sounded like.
I know
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 8:04PM - in reply to bad endurance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

I know wrote:

You're doing too much mileage for someone who has not been running for very long. You're overtrained. Back off.



bad endurance wrote:

I've been running since like September, so I'm doing too much mileage?


That is WAY too much mileage for someone with a training age of <1 year. You're almost certainly overtrained. Cut it in half and work back to 40 mpw just before cross starts.
skip
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 8:08PM - in reply to bad endurance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
assuming the mile was on the track, was the 5km? if not there is your answer, mileage is the backbone but for 5km racing one needs longer intervals and tempo effort runs
bad endurance
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 8:12PM - in reply to I know Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

I know wrote:

[quote]I know wrote:

You're doing too much mileage for someone who has not been running for very long. You're overtrained. Back off.



bad endurance wrote:

I've been running since like September, so I'm doing too much mileage?


That is WAY too much mileage for someone with a training age of <1 year. You're almost certainly overtrained. Cut it in half and work back to 40 mpw just before cross starts.[/quote]

What should a summer training week look like (with paces)?
asayya
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 8:19PM - in reply to I know Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

I know wrote:

That is WAY too much mileage for someone with a training age of <1 year. You're almost certainly overtrained. Cut it in half and work back to 40 mpw just before cross starts.


This is awful advice.

You just haven't run long enough to build up endurance. Take some of the threshold/etc. suggestions and just keep running.

Cutting your mileage certainly won't help you improve, particularly when you are shooting to be in better shape in a few months for cross.
I know
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 8:32PM - in reply to bad endurance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

bad endurance wrote:

What should a summer training week look like (with paces)?


Since you are currently overtrained, start with singles 5 days/week for 30 mpw. Do a couple at 65% VO2max, a couple at 75%, and alternate a tempo and fartlek week to week. Do that for the first third of your summer break. Then bump things up to 6 days with both a tempo and fartlek each week. For the final third, move to near 40 mpw by increasing the duration of one or both of the 65% runs. You want to start the season fit, but with plenty left in the tank.

Good luck.
bad endurance
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 9:04PM - in reply to I know Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

I know wrote:

[quote]bad endurance wrote:

What should a summer training week look like (with paces)?


Since you are currently overtrained, start with singles 5 days/week for 30 mpw. Do a couple at 65% VO2max, a couple at 75%, and alternate a tempo and fartlek week to week. Do that for the first third of your summer break. Then bump things up to 6 days with both a tempo and fartlek each week. For the final third, move to near 40 mpw by increasing the duration of one or both of the 65% runs. You want to start the season fit, but with plenty left in the tank.

Good luck.[/quote]

Why are you so certain that I'm suffering from overtraining? I don't feel extremely tired on my runs.
bryceh
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 9:08PM - in reply to bad endurance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What were your splits in the 5K? Did you go out in 5:15 and die a miserable death?
I know
RE: Why is my endurance so bad? 6/19/2012 9:10PM - in reply to bad endurance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

bad endurance wrote:

Why are you so certain that I'm suffering from overtraining? I don't feel extremely tired on my runs.


Your training age is not quite 10 months plus you're doing 60 mpw plus you're underperforming at longer distances. Classic overtraining.
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