Crossfitter Brian Mackenzie on running - This is hilarious

That's 10 hours of running. I think he means 10 hours of his cross fit program??

It was posted on the first page. Looks like that would only be like 2-3 hours of running. Longest run is 7 miles.

Im sorry but I have run well under 3:00h on far less than 10 hours a week!

I ran in college and was a decent 10kers. I took a year off and ran 2:54 off about 40-50 miles a week (for about 8-10weeks).

Just letting you know...

oh my god Brent, get over it.

Brent. wrote:

voro wrote:

WOW

This guy gets paid to train people? jesus christ

and i'm usually a fan of the crossfit guys.

Are you asking if Jesus Christ gets paid to train people? I would say no.

Or were you using the Lord's name in vain?

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Like any good charlatan Mackenzie uses small nuggets of truth and occasional facts - while specifically bypassing opposing and often more significant facts - to push the rest of their pseudo-science.

The 3 hr marathon off 10 hrs training/wk, is not that unbelievable for someone with decent talent.

ttc wrote:

The 3 hr marathon off 10 hrs training/wk, is not that unbelievable for someone with decent talent.

He's talking about 10 hours of crossfit endurance training. Not 10 hours of running.

Look at the training. Only about 25% of it is running, the rest is swim/bike/gym

I ran 2:52 off of 40 mpw (which took about 4-5 hours per week)3 years ago. So what? That time was garbage and wasn't even fast enough to get into the women's trials.

Thanks for the mention. Unfortunately I don't have any more to say, and other guy is probably so busy lecturing at nutritional conferences that he can't spend a lot of time here.

Way to throw that last dig in there after oh gaawd backed up his "Not commenting again" stance. Now, I know how easy it is to say you have credentials on the internet, but it's fairly obvious that homeboy has background (or a very solid wikipedia session) on the subject.

How about, your diet works for you because you are committed to it and you payed attention to the variables you wanted to change? And Crossfit works for Crossfitters because 200lb people rarely survive the onslaught of 6-8x1000 in the middle of a 75 mile week?

It doesn't make anyone wrong, but maybe "sub-optimal" is the right term. I'm not sure I believe that Mackenzie thinks that us runners as a group have no idea what intervals are, but maybe he does? I also don't see any pure Crossfit Endurance guys saying they can take down the elites or even sub-elites on the track. If they want the weekend warriors to follow their programs they can have them. As far as gurus go, I much prefer Kelly Starlett of Crossfit San Fransisco anyway.

Realep2 wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a relationship between Competitor Group and Crossfit? They seem to devota a lot of space to Crossfit.

Competitor continues to write about how this d-bag is a multiple time finisher of Badwater, yet he is not listed anywhere on their results pages except, as a DNF. My guess is they are tied into some training program or Reebok program that these "I exercise to exercise" authorities use.

For a real hoot google The Crossfit Whitepages and get an inside look at these fools.

I actually lost weight - quite a lot considering I was lean to begin with - when I started eating more fat. I went to live with a relative was the main reason. I didn't realize it at first because I just thought their scale was broken. Then I also realized the other changes: I could think better, didn't want to fall asleep after lunch, and the best part, my gut didn't try to explode after every run. And I'm talking I started drinking whole milk, cheese and eggs every day. Now, I try to have coconut oil, chia seeds, nuts, olives every day.

This Mackenzie guy has made even more extreme claims than are mentioned in that video. Here are a few lines from a magazine article posted as part of his online bio ...

"With this program you can safely train for an Ironman or ultramarathon on less than 8 hours per week ...."

He says that the longest run you do is 13 miles. To claim that can prepare you to do an ultra *safely* with a long run of 13 miles is ridiculous. He's lucky there is no such thing as malpractice in the fitness industry.

Full article at:

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/LASF_XFIT_ENDURANCE_SUMMER10.pdf

I also just found an interview where he says this about endurance athletes who train the traditional way: "I’d also like to throw in that none of them look at their particular sport as a skill, and because of this they will never do what they love for a long time."

Carbs are not the problem necessarily. REFINED carbs are the problem.

Refined:

Flour made products like breads, cereals and white sugar, doughnuts, pasta, crackers, cookies, hard candies, spreads with white sugar etc etc.

Anyway, does it even need to be discussed on here that his running knowledge is not very deep?

I went under 3h for the marathon on less that 10h of running/week. #humblebrag

That is a bizarre list of events. They seem even weirder than their cultish reputation.

On trail running....

MacKenzie adds: “It’s not the aerobic base that’s going to get you to the finish line. It’s that ability to go hard and be able to do it repeatedly, which is stamina.”

Haha this is great. Where's Mr Chest when you need him? This entire thread makes a mockery of runners...I can see it and I am one! Look those xfit guys are very fit and strong, you can't deny it. It took a massive amount of dedication and effort to get to where they did. In fact they are fitter overall than 99% of runners...

If you consider fitness you need to look at all aspects...muscle strength, edurance, cardiac output, speed, agility, flexibility etc. When you take into account all of fitness you see these Xfit guys are in a lot better shape than runners.

Most posters on this thread sound sad and jelous of those guys who clearly have more strength (and inherently better bodies) than they do.

Runner to a runner...grow up...

...oh an I ran <3.00h off about 50 miles a week and have run 30:25 off 60 miles a week.

Give me a break. I stopped competitively running a year ago and I am ripped after spending 5 hours a week lifting weights and running maybe 40 mpw. It's not hard to look "buff". Most cross-fit guys are pretty out of shape. Running over 100 mpw is unquestionably harder. You wouldn't know that because you've hardly done half.

You sound a little infatuated by muscular men. Give B-Mac a call, he'll take what he can get, I'm sure.

Ive had periods of running over a 100miles a week at 5500ft...

...just putting it out there.