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FM amazing
FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 12:17AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Dead favorite to win a seventh national championship this fall. Unless they miss the meet, they can't be beat. Anyone disagree with me?
DerkaDerk
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 8:31AM - in reply to FM amazing Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
As a combined boys-girls program at FM (same coach, training, philosophy, etc.) the girls team trains with the intensity of any states contending boys program. FM isn't magic, they just show how low the standards are for girl's XC in general.
twitter me this
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 9:01AM - in reply to FM amazing Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Nobody should beat them. The thought of beating HS girls is reprehensible.
Simpler Still
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 9:10AM - in reply to DerkaDerk Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You want to try that again in English?


DerkaDerk wrote:

As a combined boys-girls program at FM (same coach, training, philosophy, etc.) the girls team trains with the intensity of any states contending boys program. FM isn't magic, they just show how low the standards are for girl's XC in general.
untouchable beasts
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 10:54AM - in reply to Simpler Still Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He's basically saying FM girls won't be beat this season. They train like most HS boys teams do around the country. Until someone does the same, they're untouchable. Only two teams have come close to beating them over the last few years - Saugus, CA and Saratoga Springs, NY - and it wasn't even close. If those two teams couldn't beat them, no one can!
Simpler Still
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 10:59AM - in reply to untouchable beasts Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Thanks you. He is wrong about the way scores of girls' teams train however. It is not the workload that sets them apart. No team trained like the Fountain Valley girls did and that didn't get them any NXN titles. Almost every girls team in the top ten at NXN trains harder than "most" boys teams throughout the country.
justgooutanddoit
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 11:08AM - in reply to FM amazing Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Chris Brown can.
fersure
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 12:07PM - in reply to FM amazing Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

FM amazing wrote:

Dead favorite to win a seventh national championship this fall.

The Franklin-Monroe HS girls are not near fast enough to run for a league, district or even regional title. How can the compete at the national level???
Weak
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 12:35PM - in reply to DerkaDerk Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

DerkaDerk wrote:

As a combined boys-girls program at FM (same coach, training, philosophy, etc.) the girls team trains with the intensity of any states contending boys program. FM isn't magic, they just show how low the standards are for girl's XC in general.
Weak!!!!!!!
The Animal Within
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 12:42PM - in reply to untouchable beasts Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Many programs train as hard as the boys. Talent and team culture. But mostly talent.
fm maann
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 1:58PM - in reply to The Animal Within Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
they cheat everyone knows it plus all those girls have eating disorders and the team encourages it
DerkaDerk
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 3:39PM - in reply to fm maann Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
My point is, if FM cheats, the boy's team would also be national champions. But since the boy's aren't, it must be something about the other programs around the country. The same program that produces a states-level boy's team produces a national-level girl's team.
Simpler Still
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 5:07PM - in reply to DerkaDerk Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Oh good, you confirm that you are as stupid as you sound in your initial post. So by your so called logic any boys team that dominates a state, district or conference without a corresponding girls team that dominates is indicative of how weak boys are around that state, district or conference, right?
Anonymouus
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 5:15PM - in reply to DerkaDerk Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If I'm not mistaken the boys aren't coached by Aris during the Spring while the girls have 12 months with him. Those 3-4 months of different training makes a huge difference.
DerkaDerk
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 6:09PM - in reply to Anonymouus Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why aren't the boys national champions? Same coach, same philosophy, same training platform, same talent pool, same town, same attitude, same dedication. There is no way that FM high school has more talent than any other medium-large school anywhere else in the country. In girl's athletics there is a larger gap between good and great.
The Animal Within
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 6:16PM - in reply to Anonymouus Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You guys are idiots. Males are more competitive, genetic pool deeper and more involved in sports. That's why. It's a lot harder to win with boys than girls.

Also, the stocker over involved personality of these top girls coaches work with insecure girls who seek attention. That same mentality pushes boys away and is creepy.

But mostly girls just lack the depth and interest boys have.
DerkaDerk
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 6:40PM - in reply to The Animal Within Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The FM girls can be beat because they aren't doing anything that much different from anyone else. But the challengers will never win if they readily accept 2nd place. That's a mentality thing. It seems like FM is comfortable in their role as #1 and everybody else doesn't really mind being #2.
s over fv
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 8:07PM - in reply to Simpler Still Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Saugus trains better than the Fountain Valley girls ...
wow!
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 8:09PM - in reply to DerkaDerk Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not true. Saugus headed into the 2008 national finals with all intentions of beating FM, but finished as runner-ups by a wide margin.
Simpler Still
RE: FM Girls: Can anyone really beat them? 6/17/2012 8:27PM - in reply to s over fv Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

s over fv wrote:

Saugus trains better than the Fountain Valley girls ...


Yeah, but not harder. Fountain Valley was insane. All the respect in the world to Saugus but I used FV to point out that harder training does not necessarily make you faster.
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