| Clifford V Clavin |
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From the letter outlining charges against Armstrong: ...each rider's hematocrit level was always of primary interest to team director Johan Bruyneel. This sounds like a certain famous running coach... |
| Ambitious High School Junior |
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Cyclists have always been notorious dopers |
| Ninja Mask |
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90% of the TDF is doping 40% of those in an olympic final (100 - 10,000) are doping. This is because natural talent plays a much greater role in running. In cycling, recovery and pure endurance plays a greater role. EPO helps with that. |
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Congratulations on a post that isn't horribly wrong. It is, however, still a waste of space. |
| Clifford V Clavin |
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Everything is a waste of space, and at the same time, nothing is. Please try to understand this. |
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The top distance runner in the world today is a guy who spent his career as a mid-pack runner until he joined a particular project in Oregon as a 28-year old! The rest of the project is pretty mediocre though. Four white dudes running sub 13 in 2 years. Yup, pretty mediocre. |
| Clifford V Clavin |
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As Alberto Salazar himself has written: "My desire to win, no matter what the physical pain I had to endure, would be very hard to ignore in the current age where many athletes feel it is impossible to be competitive against the best in the world without doping. I believe that it is currently difficult to be among the top 5 in the world in any of the distance events without using EPO or Human Growth Hormone." Very difficult indeed, Alberto. |
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This thread has been restored. Someone wrote asking why it was removed. The sport is better if people ask questions about doping. Speculate all you want about doping. Solinsky volunteered for blood testing because of threads on here. Alberto did say write that quote here: http://www.law.duke.edu/sportscenter/salazar.pdf Nothing wrong with pointing it out. I had never seen it before. A journalist should ask him about it and whether he thinks its still the case. Not sure when it was written, but I think the sport is cleaner than it was 10 years ago. Views obviously change. I would point out that Alberto didn't say it was impossible to compete, he said it was difficult. Makes perfect sense with that mindset that he would use the alter-Gs, the altitude tents to try and compete with cheats. I think the sport shows there have been a lot of dirty people in the top 10 in the world. I don't see why people are afraid to talk about doping. I asked Lagat in Eugene at Pre whether he was pissed about missing the Worlds because of his "A" sample positive getting leaked. I've never seen anyone ask him about it. I saw Dr. Galea in Canada (guy linked to HGH who Tiger Woods had seen) and Chris Whetstine (guy accused of spiking Gatlin). I know I was clean, but others can draw their own conclusions and ask what they want. The burden is always on athletes to show they are clean. That is why without warning they have to drop their pants and pee with another man watching them. The assumption is we are all not guilty, not that we are innocent. |
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You are half right, which is a step forward for you. |
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Someone other than the OP asked to restore Clifford ... Clavin post? Amazing. There must some expected real entertainment coming in this thread. |
| tacomafan |
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I think the 40% of top runners use PED's estimate is low. I'm amazed at the Omerta that seems to be so strong. One day it will break, and the LR MB will be amazed. |
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Anyone who thinks you need drugs to perform your best, is a brainwashed fool. |
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This thread should be deleted due to the misuse of colons. |
| tacomafan |
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"Anyone who thinks you need drugs to perform your best, is a brainwashed fool." To perform at your best, yes, you are correct. To perform at the ultimate world best, that's another thing. |
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Don't altitude tents have the same effect as EPO? If so, why don't more athletes just use altitude tents? Granted, they are more of a hassle, but it is a clean, legal way to get the same blood-boosting effect. |
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Cycling - evil white countries win. Distance running - nice smiley countries win. No drugs in distance running at the top, the people who win are not genetically able to cheat, and also, Renato says that it doesn't even work on the nice smiley ones. |
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I've always been highly suspicious of Salazar. His close relationship with Armstrong especially is under-emphasized. |
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You're not the only one. |
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Am I the only one who notices the glaring logic error here? If you don't need drugs to perform your 'best'*, then how is it the case that you need drugs to perform at the ultimate world best? The two statements are inconsistent when applied to a world record setter. This person didn't need drugs to perform his best, because of the first statement. But he did need drugs to perform his best, because of the second statement and the fact that his best was also the 'ultimate world best'. * Assuming you feel comfortable claiming a drug-aided performance as 'yours'; otherwise this terminology wouldn't make sense. |
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This pissy attitude in no way serves as evidence for your claim. |