Marcus T Cicero
White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/12/2012 6:04PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why? I thought there was no difference between white and black, we are all the same.

Should money be given based on skin color?

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/12/12188998-white-student-lauded-after-returning-college-scholarship-meant-for-blacks
terse
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/12/2012 6:16PM - in reply to Marcus T Cicero Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
should no
can yes
Beyond Help
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/12/2012 7:07PM - in reply to Marcus T Cicero Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'll set up a white only scholarship and see how that turns out.


I'd probably end up in jail, called a nazi hitler loving homophobe.
allmenarecreatedequal
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/12/2012 9:17PM - in reply to Beyond Help Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"Jeffrey’s scholarship was later awarded to a runner-up -- a female African-American student."

This is a private club and they have every right to award the scholarship in any way they deem. In public situations this is done without the consent of the rightful winner - it's called affirmative action.
Fact of U.S. White Racism
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/12/2012 9:47PM - in reply to Beyond Help Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
In 2012, Stanford, USC, Ivy have numerical racial quotas to artificialy keep the campus looking as white as can be.
douglas burke
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/12/2012 11:23PM - in reply to Fact of U.S. White Racism Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Fact of U.S. White Racism wrote:

In 2012, Stanford, USC, Ivy have numerical racial quotas to artificialy keep the campus looking as white as can be.



do you mean to keep those schools from becoming pretty much all asian.

if they went totally on academic merit about 90% of the students would be asian.

of course the schools will always need white and black athletes so the sports teams can have a chance to win.
flavor of the day
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/12/2012 11:35PM - in reply to Beyond Help Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Beyond Help wrote: I'll set up a white only scholarship and see how that turns out.

In the real world job market your wish has been granted. The "most" qualified always get the best jobs. Problem is, the most "qualified" are almost always white males. Odd, don't you think?
Today's Huck Finn
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/12/2012 11:38PM - in reply to flavor of the day Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
flavor of the day wrote:

[quote]Beyond Help wrote: I'll set up a white only scholarship and see how that turns out.

In the real world job market your wish has been granted. The "most" qualified always get the best jobs. Problem is, the most "qualified" are almost always white males. Odd, don't you think?[/quote]

Actually, Jews and Asians are better off than whites in America by any measure you care to name.
 
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/13/2012 8:37AM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
what's an asian wrote:

uc and csu campuses can't use race in admissions nor discriminate but none of those schools are even close to 90% asian. give credit to others. plus what is an 'asian' ? using 'asian' is ridiculous since it represents 4 billion people. an asian can be a midnight black person from sri lanka, outer phillipine islands, or south india. an asian can be as white as andre aggassi who is from iran. as asian can be siberian like actor charles bronson.


Sounds good to me. I'm going back to calling them Orientals so people know exactly what I mean.
Seyta
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/13/2012 9:52AM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
what's an asian wrote:

uc and csu campuses can't use race in admissions nor discriminate but none of those schools are even close to 90% asian. give credit to others. plus what is an 'asian' ? using 'asian' is ridiculous since it represents 4 billion people. an asian can be a midnight black person from sri lanka, outer phillipine islands, or south india. an asian can be as white as andre aggassi who is from iran. as asian can be siberian like actor charles bronson.


No, the schools are NOT 90% Asian, but there is still SEVERE overrepresentation of the Asian Population within them.

Specifically, why don't you take a look at Berkeley, the flagship school of the University of California:

http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/enrollmentData.html

Demographically speaking, Asian-Americans only comprise 4.5% of the population of the United States (and this is classifying Asians as both Oriental and Southern, which includes Indians, Indonesians, Sri Lankans, etc.).

In California specifically, the Asian heritage population is about 4.5 million, which is fairly close to 13% of the total population.

In UC-Berkeley, Chinese students alone comprise 21% of the Population. Add in the other Oriental Asian Ethnicities, and they're almost 30% of the Population. Add in the rest of the Ethnicities classified as "Asian" and you have 41%.

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To put this simply, Asian students on a whole are so academically superior to the others that top colleges CANNOT use a purely Merit-Based System to determine eligibility.

Take a look at some of the Ivy Leagues. Almost ALL of them have their undergraduate student bodies composed of between 14-18% students of Asian Ethnicity. This is PURELY because they LIMIT the amount of Asians that are actually admitted to begin with. Even so, the amount of Asian students present is severely disproportional to the actual percentage of the population that they compose, because on the whole, their academic merit allows it to happen. If they didn't have these limitations in place, the Ivy League schools would be in a situation similar to Berkeley.

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Now, perhaps some of you may want to claim that this is not true for ALL colleges. For instance, the University of Iowa has a population that is only 3.6% Asian, which is actually LOWER than the percentage they represent in the nation.

http://www.uiowa.edu/admissions/undergrad/diversity/students.htm

To put it simply, this is only because very few Asian students actually WANT to apply to Iowa. After all, why apply to a low-ranked state school when you can shoot for the top?
Former Alky
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/13/2012 11:16AM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
UC Berkeley sucks for undergrad
Ivy Grad
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/13/2012 11:39AM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Since eastern Europe has been proven by the Human Genome Project to be of 75% Mongol heritage, eastern European students should be exempt from the Asiatic apartheid given the Mongols forced bred by quartering soldiers in homes.
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RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/13/2012 11:42AM - in reply to Marcus T Cicero Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Good move on his part to give the $1,000 back because the attention has gotten people to chip in and give him money plus it is overall good publicity for him.
The give back was a good investment.
hehehehe
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/13/2012 11:42AM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
why do blacks that come out of black universities have such a chip on their shoulder? you barely need a heartbeat to get into one.
Set the Record Straight
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/13/2012 12:00PM - in reply to Fact of U.S. White Racism Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
First off, the quotas exist in universities in order to keep them as culturally mixed as possible. It's actually considered part of the learning process. In the Ivy league schools, the student demographics usually matched up closely with the demographics of the U.S, the quotas aren't there to keep kids of a certain demographic out, but there to ensure that all of them are fairly represented.

With that said, I guess the same logic can apply to this scholarship being directed towards african-americans, I think the kid did the right thing giving it back and now he's getting rewarded for it. Still, racism in this country can't really go away until affirmative action, scholarships, or any other type of aid becomes based upon socio-economic status instead of skin color.
Ice T
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/13/2012 12:25PM - in reply to Set the Record Straight Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Quotas are good. Applications should be certified by police departments taking a mug shot, DNA sample, and skin shade sample of open palm, and top hand. Light skins should have a separate quota since it's ben proven that police don't assasinate light skins as often ask midnight and dark black males.
JK Flip Flop
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/13/2012 12:36PM - in reply to Fact of U.S. White Racism Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
We should have a HAPMAP TEST for all applicants administered by independent labs certified by the NIH in Bethesda MD. Since we US taxpayers pay 100% of Israel's Nazi racist state, any person with 1/16th Jewish blood is totally excluded from top private schools: Stanford, USC, Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Penn, Brown, Duke, Georgetown, Chicago, MIT, Cal Tech, Harvey Mudd, Rice, Claremont, Pomona, Cornell, and CMU. The Jews must attend college in Israel at their own expense. Why ? 1/16th you might ask ? That's the rough figure of the 'One Drop Rule' which slavery, Adolph Hitler, and Franklin Roosevelt (Japanese Concentration Camps in California) successfully used. What do you think ? Hope this helps.
HC
RE: White kid wins MLK scholarship but gives it back 6/13/2012 1:17PM - in reply to Marcus T Cicero Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Marcus T Cicero wrote:

Why? I thought there was no difference between white and black, we are all the same.

Equal is not the same thing as identical.
Black is not white.