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Runthedistance
Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 12:51AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He won the first 13:14.72 and the other in 14.59--. Elites don't do that.
Not Elite
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 12:55AM - in reply to Runthedistance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Runthedistance wrote:

He won the first 13:14.72 and the other in 14.59--. Elites don't do that.


Too bad you're not his coach so you could tell him that. Would you also tell Mo that elites don't run 3;34/13:12 withing an hour either.
Well there is always this
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 12:56AM - in reply to Runthedistance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
14:59 is not a race. It is a cool down.
Wile E Coyote
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 12:56AM - in reply to Runthedistance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The times you posted are wrong. He ran 13:19 in the first, and about 13:50 in the second.
ayygurlll021
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 12:57AM - in reply to Runthedistance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
cash money heroes
Wile E Coyote
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 12:59AM - in reply to Well there is always this Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Well there is always this wrote:

14:59 is not a race. It is a cool down.


The second race was definitely not a cool down. He was running well within himself the first half, but then started winding up the pace towards the end.
bangalangadanga
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 1:01AM - in reply to Wile E Coyote Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
anyone notice carrie toffelson 15:04?
wtf
lol@tards..
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 3:10AM - in reply to bangalangadanga Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

bangalangadanga wrote:
anyone notice carrie toffelson 15:04?
wtf


seed times.
Deseret News
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 5:47AM - in reply to Runthedistance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sounds like he did a workout after the race, and just did it in another race instead of going somewhere else. Very Al Sal.
den bosch
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 5:54AM - in reply to Deseret News Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
People don't say anything when guys do a 5k / 15 or 8 / 15 double for the workout, how is this different?
Eternal Pessimist
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 6:00AM - in reply to Runthedistance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Doesn't really matter...he won't be on the Olympic Team. Hopefully this will get him tuned up for the local Turkey Trot in November.
Sagarin
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 9:39AM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Dr. Ajay Eldrick Kumar Dosaj wrote:

cam levins ran faster in one go. PERSPECTIVE


So 13:19 and 13:58, with what I thought was less rest than an hour. That's 27:17 combined, which is what I would expect him to be able to run for the 10,000 in a great field, fully rested right now. Simply sounds like a good workout and Salazar has Ritz just going on pure strength training, which seems to have worked for him in the past. The sharpening will come.
bangalangadanga
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 10:13AM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sagarin wrote:

[quote]Dr. Ajay Eldrick Kumar Dosaj wrote:

cam levins ran faster in one go. PERSPECTIVE


So 13:19 and 13:58, with what I thought was less rest than an hour. That's 27:17 combined, which is what I would expect him to be able to run for the 10,000 in a great field, fully rested right now. Simply sounds like a good workout and Salazar has Ritz just going on pure strength training, which seems to have worked for him in the past. The sharpening will come.[/quote]


no no no
sharpening is what gets him injured
manbearpig
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 10:17AM - in reply to Runthedistance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It would have been cooler if he opened with a 13:20 and then came back with a 13:00.
Sagarin
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 10:30AM - in reply to bangalangadanga Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

bangalangadanga wrote:

[quote]Sagarin wrote:

[quote]Dr. Ajay Eldrick Kumar Dosaj wrote:

cam levins ran faster in one go. PERSPECTIVE


So 13:19 and 13:58, with what I thought was less rest than an hour. That's 27:17 combined, which is what I would expect him to be able to run for the 10,000 in a great field, fully rested right now. Simply sounds like a good workout and Salazar has Ritz just going on pure strength training, which seems to have worked for him in the past. The sharpening will come.[/quote]


no no no
sharpening is what gets him injured[/quote]

I agree. That's why they are waiting as long as possible and easing into it, going off of his strength. He DID sharpen in 2009.
Sagarin
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 10:32AM - in reply to bangalangadanga Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No reason to sharpen now if the Olympics are the goal, assuming he gets the "A" standard at the trials in the 10,000 or makes the 5,000 team. Ironically, he has been pretending to be a marathoner, looks like he is gearing for the 10,000, but is probably best over 5,000.
BountyHunter
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 10:35AM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Some very slight and cautious sharpening sounds like the answer here. Ritz closed the first 5k in about 59 seconds, so it sounds like there was some pre-Trials speed work bound up with this double.
runn
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 10:39AM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sagarin wrote:

No reason to sharpen now if the Olympics are the goal, assuming he gets the "A" standard at the trials in the 10,000 or makes the 5,000 team. Ironically, he has been pretending to be a marathoner, looks like he is gearing for the 10,000, but is probably best over 5,000.


My concern is the weather at the trials. How hot and humid will it be? Who will go after the "A" with Ritz?
I always felt that it doesn't do the guys who don't have it any good to run a pace slower than it, but then, I'm not a 28:00 10,000 guy.
The Animal Within
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 10:46AM - in reply to Runthedistance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Is Al Sal copying Al Webb's idea? So injinuitive this guy!
rupp-certified saladbar
RE: Dathan Ritzenhein Runs 2 5000m Races Within An Hour-Why ? 6/10/2012 10:48AM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sagarin wrote:
The sharpening will come.


WHEN? You know he's basically out of time, right?
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