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RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:29PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I believe Powell can beat a fully fit Bolt (it's like the 99th time I say this) def expecting a PB from him later on.

Best Powell's race imo is still Brussels (2008) and it's how I expect it to look like when he finally beats Bolt (never seen anyone do that to Bolt, Powell is a beast).
Sprintgeezer
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:30PM - in reply to Shoebacca Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Shoebacca wrote:

Bolt just simply has a better finish than anyone. It's as if his creatine phosphate energy stores allow for 1 second more at the top end than anyone else.


Well, we'll see what Blake has to say about that this weekend.

Back to work...
MeHereYouWhere?!
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:30PM - in reply to Shoebacca Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Thank you Sprintgeezer for helping to answer my question. I guess it's a "grey area"..

I don't remember anyone in that Olympic 200m getting impeded with, but I do remember 2nd and 3rd getting DQ'd for stepping outside their lane (not sure what the technical answer was). Seems like its a "hey, we got beat and by looking at the replays lets nitpick and get our guy up higher in the standings by calling out someone else" situation.
Ben Wrong
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:33PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
At this point. I'm sure Bolt is a little scared. If he got a bad start (0.150 or more) there are 3 athletes in his league. Blake (also an average starter) Powell and Gatlin (poor starter). I'm not sure about Gay running healthy at that point, same with Dix.

It would be interesting if there's a FS (not from Bolt)in that final.

Moreover. I think Powell is playing for a FS.
Whaaat?
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:37PM - in reply to Whaaat? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Whaaat? wrote:

Where's the vid????


Found it... some overlapping commentary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJhoGKol6Tw

Damn, Powell looked to be putting down the hammer! Forget Blake, Bolt is a freakin beast. To run down Asafa at full speed and pass him at the last moment takes some velocity!
Sprintgeeezer
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:38PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I TRIED to call my boyfriend and got raped....
ventolin^3
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:40PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sprintgeezer wrote:

[quote]ventolin^3 wrote: when the f*ck did you run 9.59 - 9.69 in hotter weather ???


I do it all the time, except I only make it to between 80 and 90m.

VenTARD, you IDIOT. MORON.
[/quote]

f*cking idiot

complete & utter drivel

you have no clue about these top guys you moron
Ben Wrong
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:45PM - in reply to MeHereYouWhere?! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Thank you Sprintgeezer for helping to answer my question. I guess it's a "grey area"..

I don't remember anyone in that Olympic 200m getting impeded with, but I do remember 2nd and 3rd getting DQ'd for stepping outside their lane (not sure what the technical answer was). Seems like its a "hey, we got beat and by looking at the replays lets nitpick and get our guy up higher in the standings by calling out someone else" situation.


In that 200m...Churandy Martina stepped on the INSIDE lane. And ran 199m. Same with Wallace Spearmon.
ventolin^3
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:45PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sprintgeezer wrote:It's not necessarily the time, VenTARD, but how it was achieved


idiot

only a dumbster states obvious

safa ran a full race as he does most of time when motivated

moron

you clearly haven't watched virtually all his races since '03

f*cking newbie


Apart from his complete race, look at the temperature, YOU IDIOT.

VenTARD.


imbecile

go look up temperature of frankie's 9.87 prior to atlanta

moron

you going to call frankie a 9.57 guy in '96 ???
Mos Def
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:48PM - in reply to MeHereYouWhere?! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Thank you Sprintgeezer for helping to answer my question. I guess it's a "grey area"..

I don't remember anyone in that Olympic 200m getting impeded with, but I do remember 2nd and 3rd getting DQ'd for stepping outside their lane (not sure what the technical answer was). Seems like its a "hey, we got beat and by looking at the replays lets nitpick and get our guy up higher in the standings by calling out someone else" situation.


In the 200m its not just about impeding, but leaving your lane can create an advantage. If you cut inside, you are running less distance and if you cut outside you are not running as tight of a turn.
Whaaat?
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:52PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ventolin^3 wrote:

safa ran a full race as he does most of time when motivated




Actually, it seems as if Asafa eased up approaching the line while Bolt ran thru it. Don't know if he was out of steam and glad to see the finish or the fact that Bolt had edged past him took away his drive (as in his race with Gatlin).
naniko
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 3:52PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I really, really wish Asafa could find the gumption to run through the line more often. The only time I can really recall him doing it was when he ran his 9.72PB - perhaps he should take the hint.

Surely, he would have dipped below 9.7 by now if he learnt to nail that final 10m since he's surely a legit high-9.6 talent imo.
ventolin^3
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 4:00PM - in reply to naniko Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

naniko wrote:I really, really wish Asafa could find the gumption to run through the line more often. The only time I can really recall him doing it was when he ran his 9.72PB - perhaps he should take the hint.

Surely, he would have dipped below 9.7 by now if he learnt to nail that final 10m since he's surely a legit high-9.6 talent imo.


no

look at the look on his face 2'20 into this vid of his 9.77wr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjA2n63CmKw
HuhhHhh?
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 4:06PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Warners PR is actually 10.15, but this was a significant SB.
Great run by all, but Powell needs to want to finish a 100m. Why wouldn't he lean?


Sprintgeezer wrote:

Powell 9.85 (+0.6)

RT's were OK this time

New PR for Warner, 10.20 for 4th place.

I know Bolt won, but POWELL!

Who the F saw that coming? Bolt was better in Rome, but Powell is showing the kind of improvement one wants to see.

His race looked the same as ever, except that he kept moving from 70-100m, even as Bolt passed him. Actually, I think that Powell stayed at his max top speed longer than he usually does, maybe all the way to 75 or 80m, which is where I think he improved by the .02 His start looked just a bit more ragged than usual, it will be nice to see a slow-mo.

This was a 9.88 adjusted, compared to his 9.90 adjusted against Gatlin.

Bolt's was a 9.82 adjusted, .08 off his 9.74 adjusted from Rome. Probably attributable to his having gripped in order to pass Powell. Hard to tell from the camera angle, but he didn't look to be cycling as well as in Rome, trying too hard for the win.

Damn Bolt is fast, I thought that Powell had him this time.

Anybody know what the temperature was like?
James Lee
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 4:14PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sprintgeezer wrote:

If Bolt can win like this against Powell when Powell is actually trying, then nobody has a chance at beating Bolt, IF Bolt runs his own race as he did in Rome.

If he can be made to grip, I think that he tightens up too much. He passed Powell this time, but will he be able to do it again when Powell is in better shape, and will he be able to do it to Blake if Blake finds himself ahead?

I could see someone getting the better of Bolt later in the season if Bolt grips too much.

If not, he will be invincible, like '08 and '09



Old Geezer

You are forgetting that "with all else being equal" Usain Bolt has the best ability (2nd to none)out of all his competitors to shave enough time off his season best between now and early August that is unreachable by all.

Yohan Blake must put up a time of 9.77 or better this weekend in order for him to have a chance at beating Usain Bolt in August.

Bolt is heading back to Jamaica after this and whether he is clean or not his preparation will be precise and on point. We will not see this muscular specimen that we saw all season. The Usain Bolt that will show up to London 2012 will most likely look like the U. Bolt of 2008, a leaner more flexible and agile athlete.
Barakus Obama
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 4:22PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ventolin^3 wrote:

[quote]Sprintgeezer wrote:I know Bolt won, but POWELL!

Who the F saw that coming?


anyone with a brain you idiot

only a moron woud doubt safa woudn't run ~ 9.85 basic beforehand


but Powell is showing the kind of improvement one wants to see


no

idiot

it looked same calibre as gatlin race


His race looked the same as ever, except that he kept moving from 70-100m, even as Bolt passed him. Actually, I think that Powell stayed at his max top speed longer than he usually does, maybe all the way to 75 or 80m, which is where I think he improved by the .02


moron

no one in there right mind considers 0.02s difference in basic, significant between races

safa has no problem in 70 - 100m period when fired up

idiot

did you see his athens 9.77wr head on when he was straining like an electro-prodded bull ???

stop posting f*cking drivel[/quote]


Hahaha nice one! For once I agree with you, this comment was perfect, Geezer never seems to learn anything about sprint, however much he watch it.
rupp-certified saladbar
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 4:47PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Although I'm not an official, I think it's OK in the 100 if you don't impede.

I've seen guys do it and not get DQ'd. I have also seen somebody step actually over the line and GET DQ'd, but it was near the start and was probably ruled to impede, although in actual fact it didn't.

I have also seen a guy in the outside lane get DQ'd for his foot going over the line at about the 40m mark.

Anybody know the actual rule? I always just stay in my lane.


It's fine in the 100 if you don't impede.

200 clearly different because you can save distance by leaving lane.
chuckie d
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/7/2012 4:55PM - in reply to rupp-certified saladbar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
That's the fastest I've seen Bolt hit the line except for his 9.58. Impressive run. I bet this would have been a 9.70 or so if the weather was optimal and probably a 9.7 high for Powell. Both ran really strong races.

If Bolt gets a jump and a first 40 meters like he did in Berlin, he improves to about a 9.65 if his last half stays about the same I figure. His top end speed is really coming along and is approaching the area code of his Beijing/Berlin fitness.. and it's only June 7. Scary.

I really think there's a chance we might see something in the 9.55 and 19.10 range this year.
o.O
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/8/2012 12:24AM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

If Asafa Powell somehow does the unthinkable and becomes a serious factor on the world scene, mark this race down as the turning point. For those of you that watched it, did he not seem more happy and confident in his own skin after the race than normal? We guess he had good reason to as Bolt had to work for this one.



Whoever wrote this for LRC is a worst writer than half the writers that work for ESPN.
Cc
RE: Bolt wins Oslo in 9.79, but....POWELL!!! 6/8/2012 12:30AM - in reply to chuckie d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

chuckie d wrote:

That's the fastest I've seen Bolt hit the line except for his 9.58. Impressive run. I bet this would have been a 9.70 or so if the weather was optimal and probably a 9.7 high for Powell. Both ran really strong races.

If Bolt gets a jump and a first 40 meters like he did in Berlin, he improves to about a 9.65 if his last half stays about the same I figure. His top end speed is really coming along and is approaching the area code of his Beijing/Berlin fitness.. and it's only June 7. Scary.

I really think there's a chance we might see something in the 9.55 and 19.10 range this year.


Nice observation. Bolt is out of this world and mortal men should be cautious when they try to compete against him. It is like everyone forgets that Bolt can drop a 9.5x when it really counts. I still think Blake might be a real threat though--however, he could practice himself to breaking point and literally fall apart like Gay did---maybe Bolt knows this as well. But the way Bolt always manages to run down Powell tells me Bolt is just faster and both men know it. I used to race against guys I knew I could catch up with unless my start was just horrible and theirs was perfect (You just know you have their number). Bolt knows he has Asafa's number. Let's see what Blake does this weekend.
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