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Okay the entries have been up for awhile now and there's no discussion about the meet (other than how many people qualified, which is not that interesting), so I'll try and get things started... The 5k, 10k and Steeple this year were all ridiculously fast, both up top and depth-wise. I don't think its ever been so hard to qualify in those three events, and I'm sure DIII has never seen 10 guys go sub-30 in the 10k. Despite the fast times all around in the event, I still think Tim Nelson is the guy to beat in the 10. He dominated indoors, has a sub-14 to his name outdoors, and has been racing sparingly like he did indoors so I think he'll be fresh and ready to push the 10k and win handily. The 5k looks to be real interesting, as both Nelson and Schillit are sub-14 guys, but Schillit will be fresh. Nelson is strong as hell and should be able to come back for the double well, but Schillit has 3:47 speed, so if its tactical he could be hard to beat. I'd say the Steeple could be pretty wide open. Kramer is the top returner and ran 9:00 in his only steeple this year, but Fuller, Davies, LeDuc and Crabo all have run pretty quick and have nationals experience, so if they are on the day of the race they could all challenge for the win. First time the steeple has prelims too, so that could benefit the stronger guys. 1500 should be a good one as well, with Chris Brown having run a blazing 3:43 (in a race that he won) being one of the favorites. McCarthy, the winner of the indoor mile, opted for the 1500 rather than steeple, and should definitely be up there. His performances in the last month have been kind of all over the place (1:58 last week, and tried the steeple/15/8 triple at conferences and struggled). I think Dan Sullivan, who got second last year, is a big threat as well. He ran 3:47 and 1:50 in the final week of qualifying, so it seems he's peaking quite well. I think the 800 will be a battle between Waterman of Wabash and Hutton of St. Thomas. Waterman has run a good bit faster this season, but Hutton won indoors, so I think it'll be close. Also I think there's some chance Scheetz could threaten, as he seems to be making a comeback. |
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I'm psyched for the meet and excited that it's on the West Coast for once! Looks like conditions are going to be good -- highs in the low to mid 70s. For sure conditions will be better than anywhere in the Midwest, East or South. |
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800: Waterman has to be the favorite, followed by Hutton and the freshman from oxy. Scheetz has progressed down to 1:50 after running some slower times earlier in the season so he could be a darkhorse. Also would look out for Marvel from Tufts who recently even split a 1:50 (55, 55). 1500: Brown and McCarthy are mortal locks for the top 2 spots. 5k: Schillit, then Nelson 10K Nelson wins convincingly, followed by Schmidt and Novara |
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My money would be on the Wabash guys to win the Mid-distances. Waterman has the 1:48 to his name, and McCarthy dominated indoors and seems to still be in decent shape. The question that's most intriguing to me is, how much does Nelson win the 10k by? |
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With the 5k two days later, only by as much as he needs to. |
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fear the bears!!!! especially in the 10K... |
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Chris Brown is the best at two things: running fast and beating his girlfriends. |
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cole williams, the oxy freshman, is gonna win it. he's a monster. 800's a race where the guy with the biggest PR isn't gonna win it easily |
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Williams also has more National Meet experience than Waterman. I say freshman wins, Waterman slips to third, and someone random gets second who wasn't even expected to make finals. Waterman has been 2nd too much, it's time for third. |
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Let's hear some more predictions: 800: Scheetz 1500: Horowitz Steeple: Fuller 5k: Schilit 10k: Nelson |
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Interesting that some people (not the above poster) seem to be forgetting about Ben Scheetz. The kid ran 1'48 last year and 1'47 indoors. Yeah, he bombed nationals this winter and apparently was injured early spring, but he has been steadily improving each week and just solo'ed a 1'50.54 at ECACs. He's been shown to throw down hard in big races and he seems to be on the upswing, so I'd be hard pressed to bet against him. Either way, there should be a lot of good races, with record depth in all of the distance events. Weather looks great, too, so hopefully we'll see some good times. |
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800: Scheetz is on a comeback, top 2. 1500: Brown Steeple: Conn calls Leduc "Big Meet Mike". He shows up when its on the line, I think he could win it, top 3 at least. 5k/10k: no idea. |
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Gonna leave these here so they can be found easily, and so this can be the central thread for D3 nationals discussion: Feed (bottom of page, starts at 7pm Eastern): http://www.ncaa.com/liveschedule/2012/05/24 Schedule of events: http://www.ncaa.com/content/schedule-events-6 Meet entries: http://www.deltatiming.com/events/2012/2012-ncaa-division-3-outdoor-championships/men-accepted-qualifiers-pending-medical.htm |
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Fuller def. isn't making it into the finals. |
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Fuller did make it, and based on how is teammate did, it does seem that springfield may have peaked too soon, we'll find out on saturday. 800: Scheetz (he's been improving every week, has a lot of experience at the 1:50 level) 1500: Brown is probably the favorite, but Horowitz is a masterful tactician, I think he can surprise and possibly win. 5k: Schilit all day. Best PR set in D3. Steeple: Gotta go with Davies, no one else in the field (I believe) has 3:51 speed. He sat comfortably his entire heat. NE-steeple has quite the continent in the final (7/14 in the final). |
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man how impressive was that race from Nelson? He broke the race open twice with 2 massive moves. gotta give props to Schmidt for fighting back into contention. By far the best race he's had on the national level. Was anyone else surprised that the field let Nelson get away like that? His time wasn't all that fast, I feel like it would have been manageable for several of those guys to cover the move. After what Nelson did in the indoor 5k I thought at least a few guys wouldn't let the gap open up that early. |
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Definitely a little surprising only Monson tried to go with Nelson, but maybe after indoor nationals guys weren't that confident they could stay with him through a move like that. He did throw down a 2:16 800 and a 4:37 1600 after 2 miles, which is kind of crazy and probably a little too aggressive. It worked to break the field but also led to him running a lot of 73-74 second laps later on as Schmidt caught up to him. Really impressed that he was able to make such a big move to reopen the race again, completely demoralizing Schmidt. Here are splits for the race http://www.deltatiming.com/results/htresult.aspx?yf=2012&mf=2012-ncaa-division-3-outdoor-championships&ev=120524F016&ts=true In the steeple Davies, Crabo from Pomona, and Kramer all looked really easy in their prelims. I expect the race to come down to those three, with all of them going significantly under 9 minutes. In the 1500 all the major players looked pretty good in the prelims and qualified without any trouble. |
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why do people always say stupid $hit like this? |
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why do people always say stupid $hit like this?[/quote] what happened? |