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I don't think so; probably 3:33 or so. He's definitely doing some training for speed this season and has for the past few. |
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the reality is that when you can run sub 1:50 in the 800m and sub 27 in the 10000m it is a given that you can run a good 1500 particularly if you can draft at the right pace. the only surprise is that rupp delivered the 334 this early. then again his and al sal's timing could not be better with the trials not so far away. a peak rupp can run the same under distance times as a moorcroft, which is 349 mile and 332 1500. this is the reality. |
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I wouldn't say he's quite as good as Moorcroft, who ran a 1:46 800 and was predominantly a Miler up to 1981, winning the Commonwealth 1500 in 78 and running the event at the Olympics. Moorcroft was certainly capable of 3:31/3:48 in 1982, & I doubt Rupp could quite reach that standard. Probably 3:33/3:50, though possibly just going under those 2 times in an ideal race where he's dragged to a fast time by those in front. |
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So you think that with focusing his training on the 1500, peaking, and in a perfectly paced race, he would be able to improve his time only 1 second? I would think that 3:31 would be possible. |
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haha solid point. 1 second improvement for an event thats not the focus doesn't make any sense. He's a 10k runner. That being said, I agree if he trained for it he could run 3:31 or so. Thats scary...this guy has gotten fast across multiple distances. Big ups to Rupp |
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ITT: people start to realize just how huge it is that Rupp is the #16 all time 10k runner in world history, and just how well placed he is right now to medal in London. |
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Of course he can! I mean if he really wanted to concentrate on it, he could get the AR for 800 meters too. I mean he has the ablity right? |
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I dont think you realise that there are many africans that could have run faster than Rupp in 10k, but haven't as they go for victory and not time more often. |
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I dont think you realise that there are many africans that could have run faster than Rupp in 10k, but haven't as they go for victory and not time more often.[/quote] I don't think you realize that he beat a world 5,000m champion in that race, among others. Lots of people could have run faster, but didn't. Perfect races are very rare; what matters is what you do. |
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I dont think you realise that there are many africans that could have run faster than Rupp in 10k, but haven't as they go for victory and not time more often.[/quote] Sure, there are plenty, but in the OG there will only be 6. |
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Some people respond better to certain types of training though, right? So in theory Rupp (and Farah) is doing the training - AlSal's mix of mileage and speed - that has him running the best he can in most events. It is very possible that focusing on the 1500 would only result in a second faster for Rupp. |
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Yes, I agree. And don't worry, I'm no Rupp hater. I think what he is doing is f*cking amazing, had he been a bit charismatic and more more outgoing he would be the star he deserves. But thats the world. What I was trying to say tho, this year even Mo will have a lot to struggle with. The Olympics are something else. The kenyans will run a team trial. Top 5 would be HUGE for Rupp. |
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Sp does all of this logic mean that Robby Andrews could run 3:31 or 3:30. And the US's best 1500m runners are not even 1500m runners at all? |
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Andrews can at some point go 3:30, yes. This is, what, his second 1500? Rupp couldn't go 3:30 or 3:31. I don't think you guys realize just how fast that is, but just compare to Bekele and Geb. Both of them would crush Rupp over the last lap of a 10k, but never ran under 3:32. Rupp's a strength runner who is running 3:34 because of his distance focus, not in spite of it. He's also worked extensively on his speed with Salazar. |
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Bad comparison. If he had just run, say, 1:44.0 while training for the 10000, that wouldn't be a very out of the world thing to say. |
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Rupp has speed on par with Centro (bronze medal) and Wheating (3:30) as seen in his senior year at Oregon. You guys need to wrap your head around how good Rupp really is. 12:4x here we come. |
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No one is saying Rupp will run 3:31, just that it could be possible. I think the Bekele and Geb both have better maximum potential in the 1500 than Rupp, but they didn't focus on the event either. Are you arguing that Rupp's 10000 training is also perfect training for the 1500 for him? Seems unlikely. You're also not addressing the fact that this was a race with imperfect pacing and that it is very unlikely that he was peaking for. I think it is very possible that those factors could make 3 seconds difference. Doing well in a championship 1500 is another story, I don't think that with perfect 1500 training Rupp would be likely to make the finals in a championship race. |
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332 for rupp in a hoover race. 147 for the 8. |
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Geb ran 3:31 indoors... |
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