Renato, if you have time can you post more of your training of your athletes in kenya? Thanks you are a very generous person.
Renato, if you have time can you post more of your training of your athletes in kenya? Thanks you are a very generous person.
Uh huh uh huh uh huh uh huh.....
My memory's not so bad after all.
I'd thought the last two laps were either 62-58 or 60-56 and they were the former.
Check the results on this thread.
I wonder what Renato's athletes do when it snow 20 inches outside (like it did in half the United States today)?
Renato, what does Lebid do in the ridiculous winters?
"RENATO CANOVA" actually does sound like a Harry Potter curse to me.
But seriously, I have the same question as you. WHo is this guy that is the subject of this extremely long thread?
Off the top of my head, he coaches:
Saif Saaeed Shaheen -- 2003 World Champion 3000mSC, WR steepler
Nicholas Kemboi -- 26:30 10km
James Kwalia -- 12:54 5km, 3:50mile
Abdullah Hassan -- 12:56, 26:38 10km
Kennedy Kimwetich -- 2:13 1000m, 1:43 800m
Sergiy Lebid -- 5x Euro XC champ, 13:10, 1:01 HM
I think
Joseph Mutua, Wilfred Bungei -- 1:42
He's also coached a number of marathoners, many under 2:10. Most of his athletes are either Kenyan/Qatari or Italian.
Canova is one great coach.
trackhead wrote:
Off the top of my head, he coaches:
Saif Saaeed Shaheen -- 2003 World Champion 3000mSC, WR steepler
Nicholas Kemboi -- 26:30 10km
James Kwalia -- 12:54 5km, 3:50mile
Abdullah Hassan -- 12:56, 26:38 10km
Kennedy Kimwetich -- 2:13 1000m, 1:43 800m
Sergiy Lebid -- 5x Euro XC champ, 13:10, 1:01 HM
I think
Joseph Mutua, Wilfred Bungei -- 1:42
He's also coached a number of marathoners, many under 2:10. Most of his athletes are either Kenyan/Qatari or Italian.
Hassan was Chepkirui
Also, Rodgers Rop, Christopher Kosgei (World Steeple Champ 1999), William Yiampoy, Selina Kosgei, Sally Barsosio, Mark Bett, Paul Kosgei (2002 WHMCh) and many others
Mr. Canova,
I have read all of this thread in its entirety, but I forgot what I read. Could you please repeat it?
Renato Canova wrote:
This is the reason because, in the modern training, long run at low intensity is useless, and max lactic speed also. And this is the reason because I use so much hills of different length at max intensity.
Renato, I am very surprised you of anyone would say any type of running is "useless."
Nothing is useless used properly. Long runs at low intensity are good for extending capillary beds and progressing mitochondrial density in the runner's oxygen transport system. As well, if you are a runner, you must always keep working on aerobic efficiency through thousands of miles.
It all counts.
Max speed is also very helpful when used properly. Everyone must use this to really be race worthy at the right times. This is one of the primary systems (anaerobic tolerance, that is) invoked during all short middle distance races.
Maximum sprinting speed is also very important (you train it yourself with the short hill sprints).
I know a good number of people who are strong and do a lot of aerobic work but whose 400m best is in the range of 56-60 seconds. They can be 14:30-15:00 5K runners if they become as strong as possible, but no faster.
The ONLY way for them to become elite (13:00-13:45) is to increase maximum speed so they can use a high percentage of a faster speed. Using a high percentage of 60 second 400 speed is not as good as using a high percentage of 53 second 400 speed.
We are all so honored that you can presume to give Renato "advice".
By the way, what is your time for the 5k?
what is renatos?
Renato welcomes it (I believe). He agrees that the best coaches never stop learning.
Renato thanks for all you have shared.
observer of taking up space wrote:
We are all so honored that you can presume to give Renato "advice".
By the way, what is your time for the 5k?
Belligerence gives you a little rush of adrenaline, does it?
I am giving no one advice. I am reiterating common training knowledge and pointing out what I think is inconsistency.
I suggest you simply leave the board if you find a problem with discussing running in a running message forum.
He is not the coach of Wilred Bungei!!!
Mr.Canova, have you ever been thinking of Lebid running the 3k steeplechase?
His 3000m PR is 7:35 + he seems to be very strong muscular, so probably he wouldnt have much problem clearing the hurdles, even with a bad technique he could probably run 8:10, good enough for a top-5 finish in major-champs and top-10 in yearly ranking.
Renato,
You posted the training below on page 38 of this thread for a runner aiming for 27 minutes for 10k. I find this training very interesting, but have only seen it mentioned this one time.
Have you used this training before with your runners, and what results did you get from it?
Also, could you talk more about it. Thanks.
(training posted below from page 38)
If I want to build a performance of 27:00 for 10 km (2:42 per km), having time I use essentially two type of Special Training :
1) Long continue run on track, at two different speeds : RACE SPEED (16.2 every 100m) and AEROBIC THRESHOLD SPEED, 20% slower (19.5 every 100m). The developing system is the following, using always 14 km :
a) 10 x 400m at 16.2 (64.8) alternated with 1000m in 3:15 (19.5 pace) for a final time of 4:19.8 every 1400m = 43:18
b) 10 x 500m at 16.2 (1:21.0) alternated with 900m in 2:55.5 (19.5 pace) for 4:16.5 every 1400m = 42:45.0
c) 10 x 600m at 16.2 (1:37.2) alternated with 800m in 2:36 for 4:13.2 every 1400m = 42:12
d) 10 x 700m at 16.2 (1:53.4) alternated with 700m in 2:16.5 for 4:09.9 = 41:39
e) 10 x 800m in 2:09.6 alternated with 600m in 1:57 for 4:06.6 = 41:06
Normally I never was able to continue (the final goal is 10x1000 in 2:42 rec. 400m in 1:18 = 14 km in 40:00), because there are competitions and we need to arrange some workout, but the idea of develop is that one.
Renato, was wondering what you thought the main differences were at altitude for a non-african? How can Americans get better? Can we get faster improvement training at altitude?
I am now for few minutes in Internet (here is very difficult to connect), and read the last posts. It's my will to answer tomorrow to some question, but I want only to explain that I never was thr coach of Bungei (only the first 3 months from november 98 to february 99) and Yiampoy, that are followed by an other Italian coach, Gianni Ghidini, that now is the National responsible for 800/1500m in Italy. We many times work together, but the merit of the results of these athletes is all of Gianni, that now is also the coach of Mutua (I coached him in 2002 and 2003) and Gregory Konchellah (alias Yusuf Kamal), the most talented in the world. I never coached Sally Barsosio, but her sister Florence Barsosio, 2:27.00, winning Torino in 2000, Paris in 2001, Madrid and Firenze 2004 after having a baby, and number 6 in WCh 2001 in Edmonton.
So, my experience with Kenyan athletes in the last 8 years is already full of exciting situations. When you follow a Kenyan of top class, is natural to know also a lot of athletes coached by other coaches, and, because I like to speak about training, I never finish to learn and to teach.
For example, I tried this year to have two workouts very close (in 3 hours) with Shaheen for making little special blocks 3 days a week. But I had to leave this idea, because I realized that this type of training is too tough, and the defenses of the athlete go down. It,s important to make experiments, but also to recognize your mistakes.