| Yghujjujhuuu |
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No it isn't.[/quote] What is it then? His school bio says that his PR is/was 1:51.48... |
| How are people shocked? |
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People are shocked at how slowly he ran the 5 and 10K? If he can win in 14:43 then why would he want to push to the mid 13s? |
| King Cam |
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Is this the most impressive quadruple of all time? I think it might be. |
| malmo |
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No. 1973 NAIA Wednesday, May 23 7:45 pm 1 mile heats 1. 4:08.3 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern 2. 4:08.8 Mike Boit, Eastern New Mexico 9:20 pm 880 heats 1. 1:50.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern 10:30pm 3 mile heats 1. 13:58.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern ------------------------- Thursday, May 24 8:40 pm 880 semi-finals 1. 1:50.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern 9:20 pm 3 mile final 1. 13:33.4 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern 2. 13:34.2 Rex Maddaford Eastern New Mexico 3. 13:38.2 Phillip Ndoo Eastern New Mexico ----------------------------- Friday, May 25 7:45 pm 1 Mile final 1. 3:57.8 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern 2. 3:58.5 Bob Maplestone, Eastern Washington 3. 4:00.3 Mike Boit, Eastern New Mexico 8:45 pm 880 final 1. 1:47.7 Mike Boit, Eastern New Mexico 2. 1:48.8 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern 9:15 pm 6 mile final 1. 28:42.2 Peter Fredrikkson, 2. 28:55.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern |
| King Cam |
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That's some running from Mr. Fulton. I didn't actually think Levin's was the most impressive but it's definitely not getting the respect it deserves in this thread. |
| Get a clue miss |
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Cams performance was solid. I have to agree with the guy who said that running that many races at a conference meet is really stupid. However, Cam has shown to be a different kind a runner. Normally someone who does his type of training would have burned out or got injured months ago. He looks to be holding on, What a stud!!!! Where did they hold the conference? Was it at a High elevation? If so that makes his performance all the more impressive. As usually it is hard to impress the rats on the boards who expect world records in every race. If its not the best of all time then its not impressive. Y'all need to loosen up. It was an impressive run, I am sure he could go faster. I bet Derrick, Lawi, Estrada and more could do the same thing right now and I will be impressed if they do it to. If there is anyone on the boards who hasn't equaled those times in a similar situation, they should be impressed. If you personally have been there and done that I will let you off the hook. |
| 1500 super fan |
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I guess it's just what you do for the team. Heck of a workout for Cam. Gotta say, it reminds me that many college coaches do not care about the well being of athletes, they just want to pump points out of them. |
| Akeem |
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Agreed. Seems like too many races. |
| Giant Johnson |
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It's going to be fun to bump this when he doesn't. It doesn't matter if he was not going all out. It's 18,100 meters on the track. It's not beneficial. That's why you won't see guys like Derrick or Estrada attempting anything remotely similar to this "miraculous performance" this season. |
| Eye Tolde Ya Sooo |
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It's going to be fun to bump this when he doesn't. It doesn't matter if he was not going all out. It's 18,100 meters on the track. It's not beneficial. That's why you won't see guys like Derrick or Estrada attempting anything remotely similar to this "miraculous performance" this season.[/quote] So running on the track automatically makes it a hard workout? I guess those walkers in lane 1 on my local track are frying themselves too. They should do more trail walking to avoid peaking too early. Jeez - it was 2 x 800m hard with lots of rest with a bit of tempo running (10k, 5k, 1500m) over 3 days. The guy runs 150 mpw - it was a few days of good workouts. |
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You also wont see them running anything remotely similar to the "miraculous training" of 160 mpw/4+workouts per week. Pretty sure he can handle it. I don't personally believe in high milage/multiple races per week/4+ workouts per week, but every runner is different. There are infinite ways to the same result. It clearly works for him, and why would you mess with this now? This is the 4th conference track meet in a row where he has competed in at least 3 events. Things are going pretty well I'd say.
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| Giant Johnson |
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It's not whether he CAN handle it, it's whether he SHOULD handle it. I could go out and run an unreasonable amount of quarters at mile pace until I piss blood like Quenton Cassidy, but it's not going to help me get better. There are many different routes to the same result, but some are much less sustainable than others. As Jerry Seinfeld would say, "sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason". Levins is going to end up like McDougal if he isn't careful, and things were going pretty well for that guy too, once upon a time. |
| Go Levins! |
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You all forgot that he ran 20 miles for a warmup before his 800 prelim and 10 for a cooldown on friday in order to maintain his mileage. BEAST MODE! |
| whaaaatttt |
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Messed up in three ways. A. You do understand that Levins just beat both those guys in a race where they had significant PRs, yes? B. Why would it be fun to say "I told you so" if his plan does not work out for him? C. That 10,000 is tempo pace for him, the 5,000 was more than 5 seconds a lap off of full effort, and the 1500 was obviously controlled. A hard two-day workout, but nothing that's going to put him in the tank. You have no conception how hard a mid 27 guy trains if you think this is a mistake. |
| The Empire Stikes Back |
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Empire State Games Central Trials '92 - 10,000 - 30:22 1st, 10 minutes later; Steeple - 9:31 1st, 1.5 hours later; 1500 - 4:04 3rd, 2.5 hours later; 5,000 - 14:29 1st All in a days work! |
| Mr. Rogers |
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I wouldn't even call these efforts tempo's. I was at the meet and Cam was literally talking (dang near yelling) to his teammates the whole race trying to motivate them. It was actually pretty cool to see him care so much about how his teammates were doing. Once his teammates dropped to far off he would glide up to second place and then the last 120-150 meters he would throw in a mind boggling 60 meter sprint and jog it in. The 4-6 six seconds he put on second place was literally done in 40-50 meters. Of course no one in the Summit League can touch him in the 1500 and up, but his ability to change gears was unreal. |
| J.R. |
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Thanks for those details. Awesome running by Levins. |
| Giant Johnson |
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A. You understand that that was during a race in April, not during championship season, yes? B. Because proving idiots wrong is fun. I don't want Levins to crash and burn, I just think it's an inevitability based his training. C. Doesn't matter if it wasn't all out. You have no conception of how much running on a track in spikes can take out of your legs. It doesn't matter if you are a mid-27 guy or a 30 flat guy. You don't need to do over 11 miles of track work in two days. That is why you will not see anyone else at Levins level doing this. It's not because they can't do it, it's because it's a bad idea. Maybe he'll make it through the summer fine, but I think it's extremely unlikely that his career will have any sort of longevity with this kind of stuff. |
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he is a beast! |
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A. You understand that that was during a race in April, not during championship season, yes? B. Because proving idiots wrong is fun. I don't want Levins to crash and burn, I just think it's an inevitability based his training. C. Doesn't matter if it wasn't all out. You have no conception of how much running on a track in spikes can take out of your legs. It doesn't matter if you are a mid-27 guy or a 30 flat guy. You don't need to do over 11 miles of track work in two days. That is why you will not see anyone else at Levins level doing this. It's not because they can't do it, it's because it's a bad idea. Maybe he'll make it through the summer fine, but I think it's extremely unlikely that his career will have any sort of longevity with this kind of stuff.[/quote] What makes you think he did this in spikes? |