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playsfortheotherteam wrote:

Things I have learned from posting on this thread.

1) Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are against you.

2) You can't argue with hate.

3) It's a good thing you can't throw sticks and stones in an online forum

4) Taking the time to hear others viewpoints will make us better people.

That's all for me on this thread. Its been fun.

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Panini wrote:

Koneko, my 2 cents for what it's worth. I'd say it's ok to not support gay marriage if that is where you stand on the issue. You've got a right to your opinion and from your post it seems like your opinion is what matters to you.

If you are seeking the opinion of someone else, then I'd say you've got to check with whoever that is. It's there opinion you care about.

When the folks on the side of gay marriage speak out and proclaim that they should be allowed to marry, they are seeking to influence the opinions of others. When the folks on the side of heterosexual marriage speak out, they are seeking to influece the opinions of others. My personal experience is that this conversation takes place with a lot of folks talking and not many folks listening. I don't think that necessarily means stop having the conversation, but simply make sure it is an actual conversation.

All the best!

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Harleymanincville wrote:I am a supporter of marriage as it has been in the WORLD since the beginning of time.

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Harleymanincville wrote:


Come on people really? Marriage is between a man and a woman. If you are gay so be it. That’s your choice, but it is not natural, nor is it normal.

I am not a gay basher... my brother is gay and I love him no matter what. I am a supporter of marriage as it has been in the WORLD since the beginning of time. To take the meaning of marriage out of America is just one more step to this country falling apart.

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Racehorse wrote:

Is your point that nothing we consider to be correct at any given time can one day be considered wrong? That is one slippery slope. The same fifty years ago, we decided that divorce should be granted for any reason. Are you saying that this is a good idea?

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Chromosomes wrote:

I have a serious question regarding consent and freedom to marry whoever you want.

If somebody wishes to marry a 25 year old person who has Down's syndrome, who has the mental capacity of a 5 year old, is this allowable? The Down's patient is of the age for consent, but not the mental capacity to consent.

My question arises because we talk about marriage between "two consenting adults" and it seems we have to define what a consenting adult is and who gets to decide this. Any thoughts on this?

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Chromosomes wrote:

I have a serious question regarding consent and freedom to marry whoever you want.

If somebody wishes to marry a 25 year old person who has Down's syndrome, who has the mental capacity of a 5 year old, is this allowable? The Down's patient is of the age for consent, but not the mental capacity to consent.

My question arises because we talk about marriage between "two consenting adults" and it seems we have to define what a consenting adult is and who gets to decide this. Any thoughts on this?

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Lyndon Larouche wrote:

If there is a technological development 50yrs from now that would prevent Down's syndrome, then why not allow marriage between siblings?

There are already the consequences of inbreeding in Amish communities, and The Persian Gulf. This is not something that is universally taboo.

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sdfsdfsfds wrote:

[quote]playsfortheotherteam wrote:

[quote]sdfsdfsfds wrote:

Is it wrong for THIS society to deny fags the right to marry? Yes. When this nation rose up and announced it was "OK to be gay", they basically threw every standard of decency out the window. The "sanctity of marriage" was thrown out years ago with divorce and remarriage and adultery being the law of the land. At that point, the "Christians" had no moral authority to deny the lowest of the low (the fags) the right to do what they want.

Now, do I support fags? Hell no. They are the filthiest scum roaming the planet. But it is just plain wrong and hypocritical to deny those AIDS-ridden cu.nts the right to marry.

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The Final Answer wrote:

Einstein, people only shove things like this in your face when you tell them over and over again that they can't do it and that they're so bad. If you treat someone with decency, they won't feel the urge to do this. Keep in mind, though, that the people you see at parades are a small margin of the LGBT community. Not EVERY gay person is at the parades. And there sure are plenty of straight perverts out there, don't even get me started on what some of you filthy fools do in public! Anyway, what you see at the parades is a RESPONSE to oppression. You have no clue what it is like to be oppressed, but if you did, you might understand. Until then, shut up!

[quote]have to agree wrote:

[quote]mmhmmm wrote:

[quote]survey says wrote:

For me, the #1 reason to be against gay marriage is gay pride parades. When I saw the lewd crude behaviors being flaunted publicly, I realized this is no Selma civil rights march. I used to be somewhat sympathetic for the gay rights movement, but not after seeing a gay pride parade with my own eyes. The LBGT community can thank themselves for losing my vote.

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Racehorse wrote:

[quote]Mort Asplundt wrote:

There is more at play in the "gay marriage" fight than simply granting the status of "marriage" to a union between two people of the same sex. The union, itself, by the way, is already legal and is called a civil union.

There is a reflexive resistance in people to the thuggery of the leftist mob that goes beyond any resistance to gay marriage, per say. I believe the overwhelming resistance to gay marriage in the country as expressed through voting results is more a push-back against the heavy-handed leftist push to dismantle and remake the culture at every turn than it is an absolute revulsion with two gay people getting married.

This blurb from the Wall Street Journal illustrates my point: "After California voters approved Proposition 8 banning same-sex marriage in 2008, opponents published the names of donors, who were later linked with zip codes and Google Maps. Donors reported getting death threats. Boycotts were set against businesses, and activists encouraged customers to call and harass business owners."

This sort of leftist thuggery seems pervasive in today's American landscape and people are getting increasingly fed up with it. Likewise, people are tired of having their religious faith and their values system mocked and derided as bigoted and utterly anachronistic. Ergo, when the gay marriage vote "comes to a voting booth near you," I feel a lot of people are eager for an opportunity to say "back off" to the leftist mob.

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Gay Guy Here wrote:

[quote]The Final Answer wrote:

Einstein, people only shove things like this in your face when you tell them over and over again that they can't do it and that they're so bad. If you treat someone with decency, they won't feel the urge to do this. Keep in mind, though, that the people you see at parades are a small margin of the LGBT community. Not EVERY gay person is at the parades. And there sure are plenty of straight perverts out there, don't even get me started on what some of you filthy fools do in public! Anyway, what you see at the parades is a RESPONSE to oppression. You have no clue what it is like to be oppressed, but if you did, you might understand. Until then, shut up!

[quote]have to agree wrote:

[quote]mmhmmm wrote:

[quote]survey says wrote:

For me, the #1 reason to be against gay marriage is gay pride parades. When I saw the lewd crude behaviors being flaunted publicly, I realized this is no Selma civil rights march. I used to be somewhat sympathetic for the gay rights movement, but not after seeing a gay pride parade with my own eyes. The LBGT community can thank themselves for losing my vote.

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