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| yetanotherdude |
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What rights should be differentiated by gender? There are some that appear inherently differentiated, but need not be in theory (for example, a pregnant man should have the same rights as a pregnant woman).[/quote] What rights should be differentiated by number? Why don't I have the right to marry 3 or 4 women? Why don't I have the right to marry my sister? Or my aunt? Why don't I have the right to marry my goat? My horse? |
| dfdfv |
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Women have the right to marry men. Men don't have the right to marry men. That's straight up gender discrimination. |
| Jeff Wigand |
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I think you should have that right. Who am I to tell you not to?
I think you should have that right. Who am I to tell you not to?
Your goat or horse can't give consent. Unless your name is Wilbur Post. |
| A Slightly More Credible Hulk |
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Obviously there was a time when you didn't have equal rights to braincells. |
| judge not lest ye be a moron |
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Opposite sex couples can get married. Same-sex couples cannot. That's discrimination against same-sex couples. If corporations are people, then surely so are couples. |
| carrot onion |
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Not to start something weird here, but why does that matter? They sure don't give consent when we slaughter them to eat. |
| Jeff Wigand |
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What would you have said about the right to marry in the Commonwealth of Virginia prior to 1967; that everyone had the same right: the right to marry someone of the same race, thus there was no discrimination? |
| Jeff Wigand |
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Not to start something weird here, but why does that matter? They sure don't give consent when we slaughter them to eat.[/quote] For the same reason you can't carve your dog's eyes out because you feel like it even though it's legal to have your dog euthanized. It's legal to humanely put to death an animal you are in guardianship over, but to to abuse that animal. A sex act without consent is considered abuse, but euthanasia or the humane slaughtering of livestock is not considered abuse. |
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What if the dog makes the first move? |
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*I'm sure you're aware there are a lot of weird dogs. |
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How does the community treat you two knowing you are a gay couple? Your families? Your friends? Your co-workers? I'm just wondering how you found acceptance. [quote]playsfortheotherteam wrote: Like me, my partner knew he was gay at an early age. Also not molested, had a normal life with mom and dad. He was married for about 8 years and they had 2 kids. He knew he was gay all along but did what people expected of him. Ultimately it was his wife that ended it. She cheated on him. He said he enjoyed being married and having a family but ultimately he was emotionally unfulfilled in their marriage. I think a lot of people are in the same boat. They do what is expected thinking they will ultimately be happy. A lot of married men end up cheating with women or other men (check out your local craigslist). If society were more accepting, a lot of these marriages would never happen in the first place and a lot of people wouldn't get hurt. Women and men wouldn't waste years of their lives on someone who can't fully be emotionally available. |
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No. Obama may have staked his re-election to the wrong horse. Over 40 states have decided they want traditional marriage. The liberal, politically-correct folks will see conservatives, fundies and folks who are just tired of perversion, Tea Partiers (alas) and seeing American falling apart rallying around this issue...attracted as to a magnet. The question is: can they remain unified until nov? In Mass the hot button issue is elizabeth warren, who's running against Scott Brown, claiming she 1/32 or 1/64 or 1/128 cherokee. Yup. Claimed it at U of Penn and Harvard. Note, too, that there is now some question on that alleged gay baiting that Romney is accused of when he was kid. The main stream media is not touching the story yet, and the sisters of the alleged victim are claiming they never heard of the event. Additionally it is alleged that the guy who supposedly blew the whistle on the story wasn't even there when it went down. Got to love 24/7 news. Good luck to us all. |
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1 man + 1 woman = 1 marriage |
| LetsRun Censorship |
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It's ok if you're a member of the Ku Klux Klan. |
| Jeff Wigand |
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Fifty years ago, in the Commonwealth of Virginia, the definition had race attached to it. |
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If someone, point blank, asked you if you were gay, what would be your answer? [quote]playsfortheotherteam wrote: I am totally cool with being gay. Thanks for your concern. |
| playsfortheotherteam |
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That's easy to answer. Noone knows we are a couple. Everyone knows we are best friends, but noone knows that we have sex. We may have some friends that may assume that, but it is not talked about. I don't have any gay friends. He had some acquaintances that were gay before we met but not close enough for them to recognize us as a couple. Both of us are closeted, even to his children, though I think they suspect something deeper, they probably won't ask dad who he is having sex with. I do have one friend from college who knows, but that is all. At this point I wouldn't care if people found out, it is just noone's business. I don't discuss their sexual relationships with family and friends, and I don't plan on discussing mine. I feel accepted as far as how people see us. When we go places I don't worry about people seeing us together and know or thinking we are a couple, but if we were out as a couple, I would stand to lose contact with with some siblings, probably parents, and it would be devasting for my career.
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| playsfortheotherteam |
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Depends on who it was. When I said I am cool with being gay, I mean that I have no guilt, have no self pity and am happy.
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Marriage is a bourgeois institution |
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So, you might lie depending on who it was? I can't really figure you out on this thread (although it is all over the place). You seem more than willing to defend the homosexual viewpoint etc. but for fear of your own happiness being ruined you'd never admit it to anyone? |