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| Faggettabouttit |
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Because marriage is all about the ceremony, not the life that begins after. I feel sorry for parents that would be embarassed by their offspring if they are not comfortable with this at all. I also feel sorry for those that were born a certain way and have to meet extra challenges in life based on other's perceptions. And to the OP: It is not wrong to not support gay marriage. That's your right. |
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Incest of consensual adults in a non-child bearing relationship (for ex, vasectomy). Read the rest of this thread and try to keep up. Legalize polygamy? Are you sure about that? You ought to run for Governor of Utah! |
| carrot onion |
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I take that back actually... I *kind of* hate people that quickly glance at a post and reply to it without understanding what was written. It makes my life unpleasant. |
| playsfortheotherteam |
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There are no ex gays. Gay is an orientation, just as straight is. It has almost nothing to do with practice. Straights can have gay sex and still be straight. Gays can have sex with women and still be gay (my partner is a perfect example as he has 2 children). What matters is physical attraction and emotional connection. To be gay you have to have a physical attraction to men but not to women, and be able to emotionally bond with men and not women. If you can do both, you are bi. If you can do only with the same sex you are straight, end of story.
I witnessed a former gay person say this to a gay person. Seriously, I did. It was in a public place on a college campus and the two people were arguing about homosexuality. And the gay guy challenged her by saying, "You don't know what it's like to be a homosexual." To which the now straight lady said, "Yes, I do, because I was a lesbian." It dropped like a bombshell on the argument because none of us knew that about her past. The homosexual guy was so stunned he was speechless. We were speechless too.[/quote][/quote] What do you mean there is no such thing as an ex gay person? Are you saying she never was a lesbian? If so, are you saying she was actually a heterosexual all along even though she did lesbian acts? If so, then who or what is a homosexual? Is it only a mindset or orientation or does it have to involve actual homosexual acts? Or are you saying that she will always be a lesbian since she did homosexual acts, even if it was only once and she did not "enjoy" it? If so, does that always make her bisexual if she then marries and has a kid with a guy? Or are you saying that all people are neither hetero- nor homosexual, and that it doesn't really matter what sex acts they've done because we're all the same? We just do different things? What are you saying?[/quote][/quote] |
| dufus |
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somehow I see your son as the homecoming queen and his gay male history teacher as his date.
Yes, it is about whether its normal because that's what is taught in the public schools. Legalizing gay marriage normalizes homosexuality to the point that any criticism of it is considered hate speech. If you want your son to be taught that it's ok for him to be homecoming queen, well, more power to you. But don't expect my son to be his date.[/quote] |
| dufus |
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This post is just stupid and ignorant.
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| playsfortheotherteam |
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Hate is an emotion, just like repulsion. You are not born with either. And it is kinda obvious that you don't like gays. How often do you like something that repulses you?
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| carrot onion |
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Frequently, actually. I don't like the behaviors that are associated with people who say they are gay. But there a plenty more behaviors associated with straight people that I do not like, with much more fervor I might add. |
| dufus |
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do you believe in trampling on their civil liberties too?
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So with the example of the former lesbian, if she didn't like gay sex, then she wasn't gay. If she did, she was gay. What if she liked it a little but not a lot, is she partially gay? Are there any partial homosexuals? |
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What's wrong with polygamy as long as the partners involved agree to the legal contract and no one is forced in to anything. Once again allow consenting adults to make their own choices without interference. You'd think a good republican would understand this concept. Keep the government out of people's personal lives. You have yet to put out a good argument why gay people should not have the same rights as straight people. All the stuff you are putting out there is exactly what they used to provide to justify banning interracial marriage in the 1950's. As I've said in other posts. in 20 years there want be any argument. Homosexuals will be allowed to marry in every state in America. USA Today did an article with a Gallup poll that said 71% of Americans under 30 are in favor of gay marriage. Its going to happen eventually whether you want it to or not. Change is scary i know but it happens and giving equality to everyone is a good thing not a bad thing as you seem to think. |
| carrot onion |
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Why do you think this? I already made it clear that I support the rights of incestuous people and necrophiles, which is probably more than you do. What is your point here? |
| playsfortheotherteam |
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There is no such thing as a partial homosexual. You are either physically and emotionally attracted to the same sex and not the other or you are not. I am gay. Do I find all men attractive? No, but some I do. I however don't find women attractive at all, and can't emotionally connect with them either. It is more than just who you have sex with...or didn't you read my post?
So with the example of the former lesbian, if she didn't like gay sex, then she wasn't gay. If she did, she was gay. What if she liked it a little but not a lot, is she partially gay? Are there any partial homosexuals?[/quote] |
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What's wrong with polygamy as long as the partners involved agree to the legal contract and no one is forced in to anything. Once again allow consenting adults to make their own choices without interference. You'd think a good republican would understand this concept. Keep the government out of people's personal lives. You have yet to put out a good argument why gay people should not have the same rights as straight people. All the stuff you are putting out there is exactly what they used to provide to justify banning interracial marriage in the 1950's. As I've said in other posts. in 20 years there want be any argument. Homosexuals will be allowed to marry in every state in America. USA Today did an article with a Gallup poll that said 71% of Americans under 30 are in favor of gay marriage. Its going to happen eventually whether you want it to or not. Change is scary i know but it happens and giving equality to everyone is a good thing not a bad thing as you seem to think.[/quote] You're fulfilling exactly what traditional marriage supporters warn against. Re-defining marriage completely destroys the moral compass of the nation, and confusion sweeps the country in a sort of mass intoxication. |
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And this is why it's important for the public schools to promote equality and gay marriage for the next generation. |
| dufus |
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I thought from your posts (granted I haven't read all of them) you are against gay marriage. If I am wrong on that, I am sorry. If I am right on that, see below.
Why do you think this? I already made it clear that I support the rights of incestuous people and necrophiles, which is probably more than you do. What is your point here?[/quote] |
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And this is why it's important for the public schools to promote equality and gay marriage for the next generation.[/quote] And this is exactly why so many states keep voting against gay marriage. Parents and grandparents are a large block of voters in any election and most don't want their kids and grandkids to be gay. It's ok for others, but not for their kids and grandkids. |
| sozusagen |
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Read my posts, moron.[/quote] I did, moron. And you haven't made a valid point yet. |
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So you're saying that there are complete homosexuals, complete heterosexuals, and complete bisexuals, and no blurring of the lines? No one is partially one and partially another? And you're saying this can't change over time because there are no ex gays? The reason I ask is because a few of my friends who are gay joke that everyone has "gay-dar" and gay tendencies. It's just whether they've acted on it or not. They don't think anyone is truly gay or straight. They think only bisexuals are not in denial about the desires. I'm not gay and don't understand it so I was trying to hear someone else's take on it. |
| kw |
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Eleanor-you are spot on with your comments IMHO. Hang in there and pay no mind to the ridicule. |