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douglas burke
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/5/2012 9:09PM - in reply to Xxxxxxxxx Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Personality, looks, sense of humor, etc. aside... For a nonwhite, dating a white girl is also the achievement of a status symbol. Of having "made it" in this (white dominated) world. It's like buying a Mercedes when you land that six figure income job.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game...



you dont think maybe they just genuinely like each other???
kudzurunner
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/5/2012 9:40PM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
One way of looking at the situation is that Bolt was dating black women before he made it, and now that he's made it he's decided that black women are no longer good enough for him. Obviously some Jamaican women want to think that. I'd be a fool to try and stop them. This doesn't mean they have the faintest idea what's going on inside Bolt's heart and soul, much less his lower regions. They just don't know. Or rather, they know--they can assume--that the particular (white) woman he's with turns him on, and that fact hurts them. So they universalize it into an act of racial desertion. Again, these women don't have the faintest idea what the situation really is. They don't know whether he's met his true soulmate or is just playing in the white. The former situation--which could certainly BE the situation--would actually be much more hurtful, and so the black women who decry him would prefer to imagine that it's just a "white woman thing," typical of many black men who've made it.

On the other hand: it ain't easy being Bolt. When you reach that level, international superstardom, you've an extremely high-priced commodity, a piece of meat, and by the same token you're forced to become more cosmopolitan than you were. (Cosmopolitan: world citizen). In some ways it becomes harder to find somebody who both challenges and completes you. The local Kingston girls, wonderful as they may be, probably aren't right for everybody Jamaican man who has become a superstar. SOME men in that category surely want a woman from home, but it's unrealistic to assume that every man does. Some men grow beyond that. They've got one foot in the homeland and one foot in the great world beyond. For that reason, it's not surprising that they allow that world to supply them with romantic possibilities that include people who are NOT women of color. That's what a cosmopolitan person does.

But those are merely two broad sets of possibilities that might explain what's going on. I have no idea which scenario is in effect--nor do any of the Island women who are raining down diatribes on Bolt.

Either it's jungle fever or it's true love. Or maybe it's a bit of both. Either way, it's Bolt living his freedom, and THAT, my friends, is something that tends to piss off people who are less than free, and/or less than cosmopolitan.
tanks mahn
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/5/2012 9:43PM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sorry Douglas, you're too old-fashioned. They both like how their respective self-perceived status is improved by being with the other.

I'm sure Bolt's a nice guy and all, but let's face it, most chicks wouldn't give him a second look if they didn't know who he is. They both benefit from this arrangement, until it is time to move on...
critic 100
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/5/2012 10:24PM - in reply to Walt George Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So what? As much inbreeding that goes on in that tiny country,
Bolt does not want to date or marry his first cousin on his mother's side. After 200 years on the same island, your choices who you should date become very limited.
LookyLooky
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/5/2012 10:29PM - in reply to Walt George Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
For a country that has 'turned' against him the people were sure rooting for him tonight and cheering him on at the local track meet. So much for that. Next.
Simon Ripsnitch
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/6/2012 3:29AM - in reply to LookyLooky Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This must be completely untrue - black people are never racist - it's only white people...
Walt George
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/6/2012 4:09AM - in reply to critic 100 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

critic 100 wrote:

So what? As much inbreeding that goes on in that tiny country,
Bolt does not want to date or marry his first cousin on his mother's side. After 200 years on the same island, your choices who you should date become very limited.




I have visited Jamaica a few times and saw that, unlike in the USA, there never was much interbreeding between the races, first because the white residents were few and those that were there were of British stock.
So Bolt would not have the sort of choice he would have in the USA, where there are many very attractive ‘black’ females’ due to some non-African lineage in their past.
As the great Ali himself said, when in Zaire to fight Foreman: he couldn’t be aroused by African women, because they were ‘too black’ - “they could use some white blood on their mammy’s side.”
Lyndon Larouche
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/6/2012 5:18AM - in reply to Walt George Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Walt George wrote:


I have visited Jamaica a few times and saw that, unlike in the USA, there never was much interbreeding between the races, first because the white residents were few and those that were there were of British stock.


So what you are saying is those of, "British stock" would never mix w/ black people?

There is a whole racial caste in the islands, and Jamaica in particular, of people of mixed ancestry. They could roughly be considered like "coloureds" of South Africa. Bob Marley's father was white - that is how common it was.

Again, Walt George = Alf Srubb, the LR famous Nazi apologist and BNP racist.
Walt George
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/6/2012 6:30AM - in reply to Lyndon Larouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The British, or more accurately, the English, rarely interbred between their own very defined social classes back then, never mind with the natives.
As Shaw wrote: “It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him.”
As for ‘Nazi apologist’ - you should ask the Jews.
They say that imitation is the highest form of admiration - and the state of Israel have been working to the SS guidebook ever since it was formed.
critic 100
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/6/2012 9:23AM - in reply to Walt George Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You just reiterated my point...
Lyndon Larouche
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/6/2012 10:41AM - in reply to Walt George Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Walt George wrote:

As for ‘Nazi apologist’ - you should ask the Jews.
They say that imitation is the highest form of admiration - and the state of Israel have been working to the SS guidebook ever since it was formed.

We are making progress - at least you now acknowledge that there was in fact a Holocaust in Europe, directed by Hitler.


Walt George wrote:

The British, or more accurately, the English, rarely interbred between their own very defined social classes back then, never mind with the natives.
As Shaw wrote: “It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him.”


Incorrect. White slave owners fathered numerous children, resulting in various classifications:
http://scholar.library.miami.edu/emancipation/culture4.htm

"Mulattos were one half-black and one half-white. Samboes were black and mulatto (three fourths black and one fourth white). Quadroons were the offspring of whites and mulattos (three fourths white and one fourth black). Mestees were the offspring of whites and quadroons (one eight black). "

Once again Alf/Walt you rewrite history to fit with your misshapen views of "racial purity". Just post links to the BNP website, and any other White Power websites you read. It would be a lot more convenient for all.
Walt George
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/6/2012 1:01PM - in reply to Lyndon Larouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You must be some sort of weirdo.
Of course I don’t acknowledge all the nonsense about the so-called holocaust and I’m hardly alone.
Incidentally, it is a crime in certain countries to deny the ‘approved’ version of the holocaust and one can actually be imprisoned for questioning it.
Think - anyone can dispute any version of any historical event like say, the Crusades - but it is a crime to examine in detail, the official version of that one event - boy have they got it sown up!
Ever been to Auschwitz/Birkenau?
At the end of the war and up to about 1990, the ‘official’ version was that 4,000,000 Jews had been gassed and their bodies then burnt in the famous crematoriums.
When many deniers like myself pointed out time and again that with the facilities there that was an impossibility, the figures were drastically revised down, the latest I read was from Holocaust historian Jean-Claude Pressac who estimated that about 800,000 persons -- of whom 630,000 were Jewish -- perished at Auschwitz.
So at the drop of a hat, over 3 million Jews who were supposed to have died at just one camp - either didn’t exist or survived the war.
Indeed, many American experts on gas chamber facilities, including designers, have testified that the Auschwitz gassing story to be both absurd and technically impossible.

To cut a long story short - for anyone interested, there is one survey of the Jewish question in Europe during World War Two and the conditions of Germany's concentration camps which is almost unique in its honesty and objectivity - the three-volume Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War, Geneva, 1948.
The Red Cross had access to all the German camps throughout the war, up to the last few months when it became too dangerous due to invading armies - and it was written long before the very lucrative holocaust industry got into full swing - and lucrative it is, earning hundreds of billion of dollars for the ‘survivors’ and their kin, who naturally have a vested interest in keeping the whole charade in operation.
Lyndon Larouche
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/6/2012 1:48PM - in reply to Walt George Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Walt George wrote:
Of course I don’t acknowledge all the nonsense about the so-called holocaust


Awesome. Thank you. I asked you to shoot yourself in the foot, and you use an Uzi.
Lyndon Larouche
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/6/2012 2:20PM - in reply to Walt George Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Walt George wrote:

You must be some sort of weirdo.
Of course I don’t acknowledge all the nonsense about the so-called holocaust and I’m hardly alone.


So nobody died in "death camps" 1939-1945?
There was no Kristallnacht?
There was no Wansee Conference?
There was no "Final Solution"?
There was no ghetto in Warsaw, and other cities?
There were no Jewish laws in Nazi Germany?

all of that which is commonly understood is in fact a lie? The Jews of Europe were and still are the privileged class of Europe?
Wow Unbelievable
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/6/2012 11:18PM - in reply to Xxxxxxxxx Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Her name is Miss Slovak and she interviewed Bolt for a Slovakian newspaper.
Conspiracy?
Walt George
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/7/2012 4:24AM - in reply to Lyndon Larouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The Jews of Europe were and still are the privileged class of Europe? (quote)

Yes in fact.
Six of the seven foremost multi-billionaire Russian oligarchs (or gangsters) that robbed the Russian people of their wealth at the fall of communism in the 1990’s - are Jewish.
At a time when one of them was buying a football club in London and introducing into English football the first £100,000 a week footballer, my sister came back from a visit to Moscow. appalled at the poverty she found, telling me she saw WW2 veterans in the street desperately trying to sell their medals to buy food.

Think Hitler was alone in his outlook of the Jews?
Read what Churchill wrote:

In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race.
Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world.
This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing.
It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution.
It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
Penultimate
RE: Jamaicans turn against Bolt. 5/7/2012 7:30AM - in reply to Walt George Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So no wonder the Germans were angry at them. It makes sense.
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