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coach d
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 1:27PM - in reply to ronner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Apparently the OP didn't notice what happened indoors when Rupp tried that with Lagat. Same thing will happen with Bekele--he'll just sit on Rupp until 600m out.
OP Here
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 4:25PM - in reply to coach d Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
coach d wrote:

Apparently the OP didn't notice what happened indoors when Rupp tried that with Lagat. Same thing will happen with Bekele--he'll just sit on Rupp until 600m out.


Need I remind you that Lagat and Bekele are two entirely different runners.
george oscar bluth
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 4:59PM - in reply to ronner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
ronner wrote:

I just want to say that no way a healthy, fit Bekele gets beat by Rupp, He won't get beat by anyone from anywhere when healthy and fit. The thing is though, is that coming off his injury, we don't know if he is in GOAT form. He might not be a medal contender this year. He's looking pretty good, but we haven't gotten to see what kind form he is in yet. That's part of why the PRE meet is going to be fun to watch. Will Bekele own everyone like in the past? Or will we see that he still has some fitness to gain back in order to win gold?


Let me save you the suspense:

Bekele runs a solid, albeit not great, race at Pre. He then goes on to pecker-slap everyone in the 10000m final at the Olympics. It will be fun to watch, yes, but it's already a done deal.
African D
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 5:39PM - in reply to george oscar bluth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
george oscar bluth wrote:

[quote]ronner wrote:

I just want to say that no way a healthy, fit Bekele gets beat by Rupp, He won't get beat by anyone from anywhere when healthy and fit. The thing is though, is that coming off his injury, we don't know if he is in GOAT form. He might not be a medal contender this year. He's looking pretty good, but we haven't gotten to see what kind form he is in yet. That's part of why the PRE meet is going to be fun to watch. Will Bekele own everyone like in the past? Or will we see that he still has some fitness to gain back in order to win gold?


Let me save you the suspense:

Bekele runs a solid, albeit not great, race at Pre. He then goes on to pecker-slap everyone in the 10000m final at the Olympics. It will be fun to watch, yes, but it's already a done deal.[/quote]

Thing is, nobody can match Bekele's ability to close in 51 or better. You just can't beat that off a solid pace.
ventolin^3
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 6:48PM - in reply to Distance Freak Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
there is little difference between them in an open 400

kennster :

51.3 / 1'47.6 -> 3'30.3 , 4'45.6 , 7'19.3 , 12'35.2 , 26'12.8

rupp last year as opening gambit :

52.0 / 1'49.2 -> 3'33.6 , 4'50.2 , 7'26.7 , 12'48.5 , 26'41.9

there maybe nothing between them in a slow 5k & if rupp drafts behind, he coud definitely outkick him
Faster now yeah
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 7:19PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
ventolin^3 wrote:

there is little difference between them in an open 400

kennster :

51.3 / 1'47.6 -> 3'30.3 , 4'45.6 , 7'19.3 , 12'35.2 , 26'12.8

rupp last year as opening gambit :

52.0 / 1'49.2 -> 3'33.6 , 4'50.2 , 7'26.7 , 12'48.5 , 26'41.9

there maybe nothing between them in a slow 5k & if rupp drafts behind, he coud definitely outkick him



Hasn't Bekele stated that he can run a 49 sec 400m off his 5k/10k training?
ventolin^3
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 7:32PM - in reply to Faster now yeah Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Faster now yeah wrote:Hasn't Bekele stated that he can run a 49 sec 400m off his 5k/10k training?


5'30 into

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VBnP09Utso

you have to ask which part of 49 or 1'48 is nearer the truth...
Oh Really Now
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 9:06PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
ventolin^3 wrote:

there maybe nothing between them in a slow 5k & if rupp drafts behind, he coud definitely outkick him


Absolutely love you. You make me laugh every single time.

Thanks.
Seeking an Answer
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 9:11PM - in reply to Oh Really Now Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Oh Really Now wrote:

[quote]ventolin^3 wrote:

there maybe nothing between them in a slow 5k & if rupp drafts behind, he coud definitely outkick him


Absolutely love you. You make me laugh every single time.

Thanks.[/quote]

Are you implying that ventolin is being snide?
ventolin^3
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 9:20PM - in reply to Seeking an Answer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
no arguments please

just :

5'30 into

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VBnP09Utso

you have to ask which part of 49 or 1'48 is nearer the truth
Oh Really Now
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 9:41PM - in reply to Seeking an Answer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Seeking an Answer wrote:


Are you implying that ventolin is being snide?


Just hilarious.
Mrr82
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/4/2012 11:16PM - in reply to African D Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
African D wrote:
Thing is, nobody can match Bekele's ability to close in 51 or better. You just can't beat that off a solid pace.


Um, wrong. Lagat can, and has.
haha
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/5/2012 12:45PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"there maybe nothing between them in a slow 5k & if rupp drafts behind, he coud definitely outkick.

BULL. This sounds like the hype when people said rupp was finally able to kick with lagat in the indoor 3k. Rupp got smoked. Same will happen here.
Queton C.
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/5/2012 12:59PM - in reply to Distance Freak Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'd be shocked if Mo could hang with Bekele. Rupp has no chance. His best bet is hoping it is a slow race where Bekele can only put so much ground on him in the last 400. If he goes from 1000 out he will look like a fool and just pace Bekele to a faster time. Bekele is superior to any runner on the planet and Rupp is not even in the top 15 of 5k runners.
African D
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/5/2012 1:07PM - in reply to Queton C. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Queton C. wrote:

I'd be shocked if Mo could hang with Bekele. Rupp has no chance. His best bet is hoping it is a slow race where Bekele can only put so much ground on him in the last 400. If he goes from 1000 out he will look like a fool and just pace Bekele to a faster time. Bekele is superior to any runner on the planet and Rupp is not even in the top 15 of 5k runners.


Leg speed v. lack of leg speed. That's what it comes down to.
david okeyo
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/5/2012 1:12PM - in reply to African D Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
African D wrote:
Leg speed velocity* v. lack of leg speed. That's what it comes down to.



*fixed that for you
past upset revenger
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/5/2012 1:29PM - in reply to Distance Freak Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Distance Freak wrote:

I think Rupp could take Bekele in the 5K if he runs superb and makes a strong move from 1000 out. He absolutely cannot wait until the last 400. He will have to be on his game, but I think his chances are decent to good.


HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

(I actually broke a key typing out my laugter at tis.)
No Arguments
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/5/2012 1:34PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
ventolin^3 wrote:

no arguments please

just :

[quote]5'30 into

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VBnP09Utso

you have to ask which part of 49 or 1'48 is nearer the truth
[/quote]

No argument here. Bekele says he can run 49 and 1:48. But of course, the mad professor knows better than the greatest distance runner the world has ever seen.
casual commentary
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/5/2012 1:34PM - in reply to Queton C. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Queton C. wrote:

I'd be shocked if Mo could hang with Bekele. Rupp has no chance. His best bet is hoping it is a slow race where Bekele can only put so much ground on him in the last 400. If he goes from 1000 out he will look like a fool and just pace Bekele to a faster time. Bekele is superior to any runner on the planet and Rupp is not even in the top 15 of 5k runners.


This!

The thread is a wonderful troll job by the way, the premise gets a 2/10, however the unexpected reception bumps it up to a 4/10.
McFlounder
RE: Rupp v. Bekele 5/5/2012 1:45PM - in reply to past upset revenger Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I guess some people forget that Bekele has closed the last 5000m of a 10000m race, 10 seconds faster than Rupp's best time for 5000m. I know, it is a trivial detail ...
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