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Dr. Rosenrosen
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/1/2012 4:18PM - in reply to shi-thead Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

shi-thead wrote:

So let's just opine about what would have happend under McCain.
Is this a situation where the seal team was hunting Bin Laden in Pakistan for years and McCain would have received a call for approval on a go ahead to get him?
So McCain would have gotten him in the same time frame.

Or did Obama help direct a mission to focus on Pakistan and direct resources that led to this result?

Maybe McCain would have left Pakistan alone and started to charge into Iran.




There was so much left to chance on the raid. They really didn't even know if Bin Laden was even there. Really, they were tracking a courier that, although had a really high chance of being that of BL, was still not a 100%. If one thing had gone wrong he'd have probably gotten away and Obama would have been blamed. When things go right for Obama the GOP is always there to look the other way, but when things go wrong...

Like it or not, it took a lot of guts to make that call.
Flatulus
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/1/2012 4:37PM - in reply to Conundrum Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yes.
Hey Bud
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/1/2012 5:02PM - in reply to MarathonMind Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

MarathonMind wrote:

Yes. Just like Bush tried to take credit for executing a brilliant, 8 week war in Iraq by landing on an aircraft carrier and declaring victory in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner.
Romney can pound sand.



On point. That 8 week war seemed to last just a tad longer.
Blowme
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/1/2012 5:13PM - in reply to Liberal Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Liberal wrote:

Romney saying in 2007 that, "It's not worth moving heaven and earth, spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person."



So your sick twisted liberal mind turns this comment into "I would not have ordered the strike on OBL"?

This is why you liberals are the most fuked up people on earth.
Go Away Little Girl
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/1/2012 5:36PM - in reply to Blowme Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Blowme wrote:

[quote]Liberal wrote:

Romney saying in 2007 that, "It's not worth moving heaven and earth, spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person."



So your sick twisted liberal mind turns this comment into "I would not have ordered the strike on OBL"?

This is why you liberals are the most fuked up people on earth.[/quote]

WRONG. Romney said he wouldn't go looking for OBL. The President did, as promised. Hard to give the command if you don't do much to put yourself in the position necessary.
fukked up liberal
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/1/2012 5:45PM - in reply to Blowme Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Blowme wrote:

[quote]Liberal wrote:

Romney saying in 2007 that, "It's not worth moving heaven and earth, spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person."



So your sick twisted liberal mind turns this comment into "I would not have ordered the strike on OBL"?

This is why you liberals are the most fuked up people on earth.[/quote]

You have failed reading and comprehension at the most basic level. What Romney is saying is he would not have even bothered to go after OBL. There would be no strike to be ordered on on OBL because he would still be at large.
Liberal
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/1/2012 6:13PM - in reply to Blowme Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Liberal wrote:

Romney saying in 2007 that, "It's not worth moving heaven and earth, spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person."



Blowme wrote:

So your sick twisted liberal mind turns this comment into "I would not have ordered the strike on OBL"?

This is why you liberals are the most fuked up people on earth.


You're the one who mentioned large amounts of intel and rehearsal which obviously did not come cheap. Romney wouldn't have spent the coin, therefore there would never have been a strike to order.

By the way, it's "fucked up".
another banned poster
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/1/2012 7:33PM - in reply to Go Away Little Girl Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why is anyone debating what Romney said in 2007? The guy can't even hold the same opinion for 5 days, let alone 5 years.
Go Away Little Girl
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/1/2012 7:50PM - in reply to another banned poster Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Okay.
Go Away Little Girl
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/1/2012 8:08PM - in reply to Go Away Little Girl Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sorry bub, moniker already taken (although not registered).



Go Away Little Girl wrote:

Okay.
Go Away Little Girl
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/1/2012 8:38PM - in reply to Go Away Little Girl Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Okay
TrackCoach
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/2/2012 10:38AM - in reply to Go Away Little Girl Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It was a risky decision, with almost no public downside if he had not made; Obama choose to make the decision and it worked out. YES, he gets credit for making the right decision and for the success, just like he surely would have gotten the blame if it was a failure. I watched what happened to President Carter with the fail Iran attack, Carter was blamed as if he actually flew the helicopper...it's not always fair, but "heavy the head that wears the crown".
Edgemont Dave
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/2/2012 10:44AM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Damn straight, he deserves credit. If Bush had ordered that raid and it had succeeded, the GOP would be carving his face into Mount Rushmore by now.
LookyLooky
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/2/2012 1:49PM - in reply to Edgemont Dave Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Edgemont Dave wrote:

Damn straight, he deserves credit. If Bush had ordered that raid and it had succeeded, the GOP would be carving his face into Mount Rushmore by now.


+1.
And Rush would be on the air everyday reminding us of the greatness of Bush. And so would Drudge.

BTW anyone notice how partisan Drudge has become on the drudge website? Anything remotely negative about Obama is front and center on the website. The first lady and kids are not even off limits in his attempt to sling mud to see if any of it will stick. No pretense there.
Blowme
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/2/2012 3:30PM - in reply to fukked up liberal Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

fukked up liberal wrote:

[quote]Blowme wrote:

[quote]Liberal wrote:

Romney saying in 2007 that, "It's not worth moving heaven and earth, spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person."



So your sick twisted liberal mind turns this comment into "I would not have ordered the strike on OBL"?

This is why you liberals are the most fuked up people on earth.[/quote]

You have failed reading and comprehension at the most basic level. What Romney is saying is he would not have even bothered to go after OBL. There would be no strike to be ordered on on OBL because he would still be at large.[/quote]


No he's not. He's saying it's not worth going to war with every country that OBL moves to. Romney's already come out and answered the very question if he would have given the order and he replied "of course". Romney wasn't saying the intel community shouldn't go looking for him.

So obviously all you liberals now support the war in Iraq. We went in there trying to move heaven and earth for one man. Now you're all saying it's worth ANY price to capture one wanted man.

Hey everyone!!!!!! THE LIBERALS NOW SUPPORT THE WAR IN IRAQ!!!!!!!

We knew with proper training you'd all come around.
rttryrty
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/2/2012 4:09PM - in reply to Blowme Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Blowme wrote:
No he's not. He's saying it's not worth going to war with every country that OBL moves to. Romney's already come out and answered the very question if he would have given the order and he replied "of course". Romney wasn't saying the intel community shouldn't go looking for him.

So obviously all you liberals now support the war in Iraq. We went in there trying to move heaven and earth for one man. Now you're all saying it's worth ANY price to capture one wanted man.

Hey everyone!!!!!! THE LIBERALS NOW SUPPORT THE WAR IN IRAQ!!!!!!!

We knew with proper training you'd all come around.


This doesn't make any sense. Are you getting Iraq mixed up with Afghanistan? You do realize that Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, or OBL when we invaded. You do realize that Afghanistan was a war that Obama fully supported. You do realize that the war in Iraq is over and that liberals never supported it and still consider it a major mistake.

On another point: Romney saying he would have given the order is hindsight. Now that everything worked out nicely, of course he'd have given the order. But at the moment Obama gave it the outcome was an absolute unknown and he was taking a astronomical risk. Fortunately, it paid off and now the right is complaining that it worked out so well.
Blowme
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/2/2012 4:17PM - in reply to rttryrty Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

rttryrty wrote:

You do realize that the war in Iraq is over and that liberals never supported it and still consider it a major mistake.



Yes I realize liberals are a bunch of two-faced, lying, phoney pieces of shit.

Thanks for making my point
rttryrty
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/2/2012 4:25PM - in reply to Blowme Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Blowme wrote:

Yes I realize liberals are a bunch of two-faced, lying, phoney pieces of shit.

Thanks for making my point


And thank you for making mine.
another banned poster
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/2/2012 4:46PM - in reply to Blowme Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Blowme is most likely a 7-year-old who argues at a 4-year-old's level. What's your PR on the 30-yard dash, little guy?
Conundrum
RE: Should Obama receive credit for getting Bin Laden 5/2/2012 8:35PM - in reply to another banned poster Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not generally a big fan of letsrun put downs but damn that was funny!!!


another banned poster wrote:

Blowme is most likely a 7-year-old who argues at a 4-year-old's level. What's your PR on the 30-yard dash, little guy?
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